Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
I never saw you as initiating the aggressive behavior but in reaction you are very aggressive at times.
Perhaps you were thinking along the line of Protagonist vs Antagonist.
Abortion
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Perhaps you were thinking along the line of Protagonist vs Antagonist.
BrownArmy
Well-Known Member
I still don't get it.
Explain it to me.
Hells yah, I'm supremely aggressive in my own defense.
I don't understand the concept that if other people are telling me how to live, and I tell them not to tell me how to live, that makes me the aggressor?
Ok
Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
OK
You said this in your previous post ... as I promised, I'll give you feedback as I see it going forward.
OK?
You can't seem to grasp that other people are saying what they believe to be truth, and by saying so they are ordering you to do the same in your mind. You are free to live your life as you please as long as you aren't hurting someone. But that's our point, and why we're so adamant about it, that abortion is hurting someone. Severely. We have just as much right to say it's murder with few exceptions, or for some no exceptions, as you saying it's a woman's choice. You want to shut down our right to say so, so you are trying to run our lives just as much.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Literally no one is suggesting you shouldn't be able to speak your opinion about abortion.
They're suggesting the government shouldn't force your opinion on everyone else.
I looked at ignored content for this one. No, Brown Army is saying I and others have no business telling others how to live. But in a democracy, or a representative republic, things are decided by majority rule. So if the majority votes to ban abortion, whether in an election, or at the Supreme Court, the minority has to accept it. They can despise it, protest against it, but they have to accept it as legal as we've done since Roe vs Wade. But a lot of people on the Left want to shut us up.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
You always do, no one believes you have any self control.
FFS don't you ever get tired of playing the victim card?
No one is trying to stop you from speaking your opinion. Stop crying.
Nope, have been enjoying ignoring you for some time now. But abortion matters.
Another selective conservative that you called out over the money issue.
"Ban abortion" they say . But bearing the cost of the explosion in the demand for child support services? .....That's someone else's burden. The moralists and bible thumpers have to finally come to terms with fact that their agenda is going nowhere because they don't have any money with which to back it. All while the most basic tenet of their puritanical conservative ideology is staring them right in their faces.......If you're not rich.....it's your fault.
And your answer is to slaughter babies. No moral high ground for you.
If you're not rich....it's your fault....Why? Because if you were rich as you are expected to be you could do your part and take in some foster/adopted kids. Since you ain't go no money all you've got is high morals and biblical scripture and that ain't going to pay the bills you pro lifers and moralists want to run up on the public's tab....... And top it all off you're the one waaaing about the deficit......In the meantime simply continue on with your impressive Butch and Sundance imitation ........hiding out in South America until things cool down in the states.
How many have you taken in then? And not being rich isn't a sin. Most people aren't. But showing lack of restraint and putting the result on someone else, that's a liberal thing.
if putting the result of a complete ban on abortion on the back's of the public is a liberal thing then you're a liberal like we said all along.
Nope, if I had a child I would've supported it. I knew a guy at church that got one of his employees pregnant. He refused to acknowledge the kid. Girl left state to live with relatives so Tennessee dropped paternity suit. She sent him pics, saw them, boy was clearly his. I would never do that, I'd take care of my child. But I would have gotten her pregnant in the first place. If you give people a safety valve, whether it's abortion or putting it on the state to raise the child, many will take advantage of it. The stigma of having a child out of wedlock used to discourage women from getting involved in risky behavior. Some still did of course. But it wasn't just a stigma because of the church, but it also put a financial burden on families. So for the most part people married much earlier and had kids. Today too many want to have freedom to do as they please, and there's no pressure to marry young. But they still want sex. Abortion is the escape valve because too many aren't responsible. And you think the state should take their responsibility off their hands if there's no abortion. Might be a period of adjustment, but soon people will realize getting pregnant is on them, their responsibility. And if they do get pregnant they'll have to deal with it.
"And they'll have to deal with it". Now here you go again trying to order people to deal with the matter in a manner that's agreeable to you and your empty wallet. Like they always say......"money talks and BS walks."
It's their child, their mistake if they were irresponsible. Why should the state or anyone else be responsible? The state is only responsible to step in if the child's welfare is threatened. Otherwise the child belongs to the parent. Use good judgment.
The conception belongs to the parents. It's their decision as to what to do about. If you want to make that decision ok........but bring your checkbook with you.
BrownArmy
Well-Known Member
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Murder? Really? I've never aborted a child or participated in a decision to have one. As I said before, abortion for those who can afford it is a simple trip to the OB/GYN for a D&C procedure. That's how several Born-Again women I know did it. Mom made the appointment, and the doctor did as requested... problem gone and no explanations or embarrassment.
They still go to church every week and love God, and are total hypocrites, just like you.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Riiiiighttt.
Funny how so many of the anti abortion folks can't get anyone to have sex with them in the first place.
