Air Driver positions getting replaced by 22.4s?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Method Mensch, Sep 18, 2019.

  1. Method Mensch

    Method Mensch Member

    I'm only about 30% confident that it might be true, but I've been hearing chatter about Air Driver slots being eliminated. Doesn't make sense to me, but rumor has it that Air Drivers could be offered to either go 22.4 or work inside at inside rate. Anyone else hear or see anything to that effect? I work in a New England building.
  2. Sure it makes sense. 22.4 drivers will too out around too air rate plus they can deliver ground
  3. Method Mensch

    Method Mensch Member

    If they only need someone for 3.5 hrs to get an air loop done, why use a guy with an 8 hour guarantee?
  4. PappyLand

    PappyLand Active Member

    Thank god!
  5. So they could take overtime away from the higher paid RPCD

    And not have to pay out 9.5 grievances
  6. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Well-Known Member

    Heard 22.4s arent allowed to double shift to get their 8 either. Inside and remaining time has to be on road or file grievance. I can definitely see air drivers being done with.
  7. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    @Boston25 or @wide load might be able to shed some light on this question for you. I don't know if the NE supplement has any 22.4 language in it.
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  8. Method Mensch

    Method Mensch Member

    Sooo... My understanding heis that the reason they build routes with OT is that it's cheaper to pay OT than pay regular rate plus the "wage burden" money for bennies like workman's comp, health and welfare $, pension contributions, etc., which all based on an 8 hour day. When they pay the OT it is cheaper than regular pay + the burden. Still not making sense. Not every driver is on the 9.5 list.
  9. Method Mensch

    Method Mensch Member

    I've reached out and have been told The Union is not aware of anything regarding the rumors, but drivers in other buildings insist that they've been approached by Management and shop stewards and it's already occurring in other buildings.

    It makes more sense to me that someone in Management is stirring up the :censored2:storm just to get some Air Drivers to panic and sign up for the 22.4 slots.

    I'm more curious whether anyone anywhere else has seen or heard anything similar elsewhere. My instinct tells me it's BS, but I've been wrong before.
  10. derrick

    derrick Member

    i think its crap. i'm a full time combo air/hub. if they eliminate my job they would have to give me a full time hub or driving job plus keep my progression pay and benefits.
  11. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    You don't have exception air drivers where you work?

    Those are the air jobs that would be eaten up by 22.4s
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  13. eats packages

    eats packages Low elevation homes, hoping for flood.

    22.4 is already shaping up to be a replacement for cover driving. Not an air driver. They might allow an hour or two of preload time as well.

    I do not see air drivers delivering ground anymore. Most of them work inside half of every day regardless.

    Some air drivers get called to work around 5-6AM around here so it makes sense to fill a vacant assignment left by a preloader/air driver to a 22.4
  14. Peppermint Patty

    Peppermint Patty Cardboard Pusher

    I have also heard this rumor but have been assuring the few part time air drivers we have that nothing has been said yet. They did away with Saturday air without a word to the Saturday air drivers so it would not be shocking if one day you just showed up and were placed back in the building never driving air again. With this company you never know. They will not be upfront with you about anything.
  15. Thanks Dennis...
  16. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    All of our PT EAM air drivers are Tue thru Saturday. We have Saturday Ground but no 22.4 drivers yet. I suppose a lot will depend on how many extra package cars and how much extra work is available. Even Preload/air driver could easily be switched to midnight/preload.
  17. Mr.Blonde

    Mr.Blonde Active Member

    The “22.4’s” in my center have only been driving. Several months now and they still haven’t gone in for a shift on the inside
  18. Netsua 3:16

    Netsua 3:16 Stop being a little bitch

    Here, we’ve had several new guys fail their packets over the summer. They are now utility. After a certain amount of time passes as utility, they automatically qualify for FT 22.4. That’s whats happening here anyways.
  19. Boston25

    Boston25 Active Member

    It’s exactly that a rumor. UPS would have to negotiate with the union before a change like that. I guess we will see what happens in February.
  20. PizzaToUps

    PizzaToUps Member

    22.4’s are such BS
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