Not to mention all the ER's in the Southwest that were shut down due to illegal immigrants using them for all of their medical care, as advised by activists, and letting the government pick up the tab. And P.S., everyone's premiums and deductibles went up under Obamacare to subsidize the poor and to cover preexisting conditions.
It sure does. But I do know that abolitionists argued before the Civil War that slavery could no longer be justified with the advent of machines that could do the work. Somehow got it in my mind they were talking about the cotton gin. And for the peanut gallery I'm not saying slavery was justifiable, only that's what they argued to try to end it.
Who are you to talk? The last time you went to the hospital you had no insurance but bragged about how you got the same billed rate as those who did whatever was necessary and sacrificed in order to keep their premiums paid. So quit shaming illegals when you have done nothing better yourself.
You were given a choice- buy insurance and pay lower taxes, or don't pay insurance and face a higher tax bill. And few people even faced that choice. The well off were smart, and knew they needed insurance to protect their financial health. The poor up to $22k income for a single person got full coverage with no costs. Those not eligible for subsidies had enough income to afford insurance and if smart, had it. If you premium is more than 10% of your income, you were exempt from the penalty.
Actually, hospitals here will provide your uninsured care at a 70% discount off their normal rates if you settle your bill within 10 days. Seems all the record keeping and red tape expenses come at a significant cost to the hospital.
And chances are that 70% off is about the same rate as that which insurers were able to negotiate with the provider. Do you really think that discounted rate would exist at all if it were not for the purchasing power of group insurance subscribers?
If you would re-read my post #121 in this thread, you would also learn that those negotiated rates are purchased via retainer, meaning the net result is more expensive than cash.
And by the way. Most of not all of the 13 states that opted out of the expanded Medicaid program are in the Mid and Southwest including your state of Kansas. And rest assured if it had joined and you qualified you would have been right in there to fully capitalize on it to the fullest extent and at that very moment a program which is in your mind's eye a wasteful public spending program would immediately become the best public social program since Medicare. Pseudo conservatism at it's finest where it's easy to talk the conservative talk but the everyday application of it's core principles is a rocky road to walk indeed.
I did and it still comes down to the power of a large pool of insured subscribers ability to negotiate bulk rates. Then again even at the discounted rate how many people have enough money in their bank accounts to pay for a heart or kidney transplant or weeks in a coma ?
Ergo the catastrophic coverage mentioned in my previous response.
Then again all policies have coverage limits . All policies have premiums. And given that states regulate insurance markets some insurance products do not pass the muster of all 50 states insurance commissions.
to properly manage their health before the ACA didn't so so afterwards, either. The flawed theory behind mandated coverage is that all these uncovered people are going to immediately take full and proper use of the benefits they got with their newfangled ACA coverage, thus becoming healthier and driving down health costs for the population. Guess what? They don't. There was no big turnaround in habits, and anyone with any sense of awareness predicted as much.What a person can do in behalf of their health is important and might serve to slow down but not stop the ageing process. Age and heredity are also key factors . I lost a good friend 3 months ago due to a hereditary form of heart disease that had already killed two of his siblings. So Dano if there are disease patterns that are common in your parents families chance are they'll be paying you a visit sometime in the not too distant future.Let me tell you a secret. People who didn't do
Except that I wouldn't. You think government is the answer to everything but as Obamacare illustrated it isn't.
Have you actually listened to the guy? A real policy wonk. And he does cite sources when he talks. He's not Al Gore. And yes they are developing robotics and AI with the intent of replacing human workers. A number of places, for example, are working on self driving semi trucks. And for good reason. There's a chronic shortage of drivers, there's constant turnover, and many drivers jump ship to other companies for more money. Fully implemented that would eliminate millions of jobs. About half of all jobs can possibly be replaced. He pointed out millions of jobs were lost due to automation in the auto industry. Not just factory jobs, but many jobs in the communities that depended on good paying auto jobs to support their economy. You say it leads to other opportunities. But those were the states who were hurting so bad they voted for Trump.
Your other bill was lowered considerably thanks to government sponsored and passed healthcare laws that allowed for the creation of insurance subscriber groups and insurance pools and thanks to them you made out quite nicely even though you didn't contribute a cent to them. Oh yeah, if you were faced with a major health condition that ran up hundreds of thousands of dollars in bills and you're just getting by from week to week you'll accept financial assistance from any place you can get it and I mean any place. And that includes government sources and don't even try to tell me that you wouldn't accept it.
