Anyone seen these package car cameras yet?

[crow27]

the cameras are just creepy, if they were about distracted driving they would turn off when the car stops.

 

[1BROWNWRENCH]

You know if you hit reply down in the right hand corner of your device before you reply
Folks will know who you are replying to

hope this helps

I was replying to the general condition of the thread.

Hope this helps too

 

[Jackburton]

So you know all 340 methods and do them perfectly every stop, every day? Cause I know I don’t.

You don’t have to be the best, you just gotta be better than the worst.

 

[TheBrownNote]

What if, at every stop you place a hat over the camera when the vehicle is off. One could easily add this motion into muscle memory, and not even miss a step. That way they cant see down into the back.
Really test out if they can watch you or not. See how much theyre lying.
As long as it isnt covered when the vehicle is on, youre not interfering with the equipment, if it's only to help with distracted driving.

 

[542thruNthru]

Well our first termination for "tampering" with the cameras happen today. Driver covered the whole camera with one of the UPS call tag door hangers.

Optimistic that he'll get his job back.

 

[quad decade guy]

Why did he cover the camera? It is clear about tampering.......are you optimistic about his chances?

 

[quad decade guy]

What if, at every stop you place a hat over the camera when the vehicle is off. One could easily add this motion into muscle memory, and not even miss a step. That way they cant see down into the back.
Really test out if they can watch you or not. See how much theyre lying.
As long as it isnt covered when the vehicle is on, youre not interfering with the equipment, if it's only to help with distracted driving.

How do you know its not on all the time?

 

[Brownslave688]

Well our first termination for "tampering" with the cameras happen today. Driver covered the whole camera with one of the UPS call tag door hangers. View attachment 344716

Optimistic that he'll get his job back.

This is gonna be interesting

 

[542thruNthru]

Why did he cover the camera? It is clear about tampering.......are you optimistic about his chances?

Yes I am optimistic. It's more the company just sending a message to leave the cameras alone.

 

[21Savage]

Had the training on it today.

Cig smokers gonna be getting the shakes lol

 

[Misthios]

That battle will be eternal. I took out a brand new truck the Saturday before I went on vacation last week. Not even 4,000 miles on the thing and the cradle was already broken because some runner gunner swing driver slammed the DIAD into it all day and just obliterated the pins at the bottom.

I think a stiff breeze ruins those pins.

 

[Misthios]

Had the training on it today.

Cig smokers gonna be getting the shakes lol

Ahhh it will give them something else to ride my ass about. Let's not worry about the inability to get wrapped and out the door on time but...........backing and 2 hands not on the wheel?????? Get the effff outta here.

 

[Poop Head]

Im exited for the cameras. Maybe they can stream them on upsers or something.

Welcome to the Poop show, bitches!

 

[Off the leash]

 

[Ou812fu]

Long rant.

I believe these cameras will cause more safety issues than what UPS believes they are intended for.

Lets face it, these are the facts, UPS drivers are some of, if not the....very best trained operators on the road. Given our number of operators of vehicles, and miles driven, in almost every conceivable condition, our safety record is and HAS BEEN very good.

We don't need a camera in our face, the SOLE PURPOSE of these cameras, is to CONSTANTLY monitor the driver since telematics and EDD still has not given them enough satisfaction and BS unrealistic results.

UPS is CLUELESS on the worlkoad of the delivery driver over the last 10 years. Constantly we have been berated with tiny details of why we did something completely irrelevant to getting the job done faster because they have shoved 30%+ more work on us and cannot figure out why we are struggling, they still feel they need to tell us what our 1st stop is.

I think the UPS delivery driver has gone from someone who holds a position that they could easily say maybe 1 out of 10 people could do our job, to pretty much a superhero.

There are many dynamics at play, simply performing your job, methods and procedures, being safe, and keeping the public safe, keeping this flowing smoothly being the human element requires a great deal of focus.

So here's my thinking.....When you now take into consideration what UPS likes to use (which is anything) for discipline that now involves a camera which will CONSTANTLY video the driver, this knowledge the driver now has they they are being videoed for the full duration of their shift will IMO negatively affect their ability to draw their focus to the larger bubble around the vehicle, to what's going on inside the vehicle. The driver will naturally want to protect themselves in regards to job security. This is the issue, what we have always done to be aware of our surroundings, make sound and quick judgement calls, will likely be highly affected by trying to make sure we always...."look good on camera". Mark my words, this will become very evident as soon as other drivers begin receiving word that their fellow co-workers are being disciplined.

I will say with absolute certainty, that I will reach for a water bottle, scratch my head, wipe the sweat, anything that shows my hand off the wheel for a moment in which case I still NEVER lose focus or control of my vehicle.....but it won't look like this to a camera....and will be something UPS will use as a "distraction".

Hey UPS, your stock is up because of the extra work we do coupled with Covid, and the fact the driver NATURALLY GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND to give you this.....however you WILL be taking this extra EDGE we provide down a notch or two.

Anyone who thinks for one second these cameras DON'T record constantly are in for a surprise.

I'm fine with a camera looking out, should help with proving the other driver at fault if any incident occurs. UPS has now taken the investment (trained driver) they require to keep the company moving at the pace they want, and forced them into more of a self-preservation mode and the performance will likely show.

UPS has the edge, the well-trained delivery driver that very few can replicate, and they are now turning on them more than ever.

Simple solution.. Stress leave..

 

[542thruNthru]

Simple solution.. Stress leave..

For how long?

 

[Poop Head]

I mean, why not just have us wear body cams. Thatd be pretty sweet

 

[Cowboy Mac]

I mean, why not just have us wear body cams. Thatd be pretty sweet

Heart monitor. Ups needs to know your vitals at all times.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Heart monitor. Ups needs to know your vitals at all times.

Well where's the line for the rectal probes? I mean, I'm sure core temperature is important...

 

[Box Ox]

Well where's the line for the rectal probes?

We could be in for some real trouble if our resident rectal probe expert is ever convinced to move from feeders to corporate.