Getting about 8.5 hrs / day. They have training junk routes in for the seasonal workers but we do not have enough workers in the hub, helpers, PVD's, etc. Also, we do not have enough package cars. Real peak is going to be a joke here. New crop of seasonal drivers is a joke, but what else is new. Just seems this year it will be tough to find labor who wants to put up with this crap for low wages and long days for about 6 weeks. UPS needs a better strategy.