C.I.R.—A Handy Guide

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

We were told these kinds of stops would be unchanged. Still use SDN and it will not go against your CIR percent effective. That seems to be the case so far.

Nope-----CIR will replace the SDN's.

 

[pkgdriver]

If they demand to sign let them sign is listed on the PCM print out and was said during PCM.

 

[Bubblehead]

Nope-----CIR will replace the SDN's. X

Do you know what CIR is an acronym for?

 

[upsgrunt]

CIR will replace the SDN's.

Businesses do not have the ability to "opt out".

Wanna bet that you're wrong?

 

[Coldworld]

If only there were a way that you could rid yourself of all of this drama......

I have 43 working days left...my GAF has already gotten up and left. Perhaps yours should do the same. Dave.

Oh brother... what’s the purpose of putting your name at the end?? I don’t think @scratch gives a either way!!

 

[1989]

Do you know what CIR is an acronym for?

Commercial inside release

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

Nope-----CIR will replace the SDN's.

Wrong

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Wrong

Can a signed delivery notice be used for a signature required package? No.

 

[PACNW]

Nope-----CIR will replace the SDN's.

The reason CIRs do not replace SDNs is because CIR still requires customer contact. SDN allows you to leave a package with no customer contact. This is why SDN isn't going anywhere.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The reason CIRs do not replace SDNs is because CIR still requires customer contact. SDN allows you to leave a package with no customer contact. This is why SDN isn't going anywhere.

CIR works whether you make customer contact or note.

 

[PACNW]

CIR works whether you make customer contact or note.

Of course it works. There are a lot of things that work that you aren't supposed to do. CIR training specifically says you must make customer contact, so if you CIR with no contact, you do so at your own risk just like any procedure we choose not to follow.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Of course it works. There are a lot of things that work that you aren't supposed to do. CIR training specifically says you must make customer contact, so if you CIR with no contact, you do so at your own risk just like any procedure we choose not to follow.

I deliver to one of our local churches. Deliveries go on a porch near the rectory. They generally get the mass books on Wednesday and have been ordering a lot of Amazon for what is called Project Gabriel.

I could give them a stack of delivery notices and have them fill one out when they are expecting a delivery....

or...

I could do the smart thing and simply use CIR to complete their deliveries.

Does signing a SDN ensure that their packages will still be there any more than using CIR?

 

[Bubblehead]

I deliver to one of our local churches. Deliveries go on a porch near the rectory. They generally get the mass books on Wednesday and have been ordering a lot of Amazon for what is called Project Gabriel.

I could give them a stack of delivery notices and have them fill one out when they are expecting a delivery....

or...

I could do the smart thing and simply use CIR to complete their deliveries.

Does signing a SDN ensure that their packages will still be there any more than using CIR?

Signed delivery notices are not an acceptable signature in a COMMERCIAL delivery scenario.
They are only to be used for residential deliveries, and I don't even accept them then, unless prompted to by the DIAD.

Therefore CID will never be a replacement for SDN.

 

[scratch]

So the Apple signature release forms are going away? Nope.

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

CIR works whether you make customer contact or note.

Wrong
If you follow the methods it doesn't.

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

I deliver to one of our local churches. Deliveries go on a porch near the rectory. They generally get the mass books on Wednesday and have been ordering a lot of Amazon for what is called Project Gabriel.

I could give them a stack of delivery notices and have them fill one out when they are expecting a delivery....

or...

I could do the smart thing and simply use CIR to complete their deliveries.

Does signing a SDN ensure that their packages will still be there any more than using CIR?

A clear violation of the methods

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

So the Apple signature release forms are going away? Nope.

Those are EDN’s.

TTKU

 

[Bubblehead]

CIR works whether you make customer contact or note. X

...."works" until a customer claims they didn't receive a package, that you are claiming you released to them???

I can almost hear it now, "how could I have received it, I was out sick that day"???

 

[Bubblehead]

I deliver to one of our local churches. Deliveries go on a porch near the rectory. They generally get the mass books on Wednesday and have been ordering a lot of Amazon for what is called Project Gabriel. X

I could give them a stack of delivery notices and have them fill one out when they are expecting a delivery....

or...

I could do the smart thing and simply use CIR to complete their deliveries.

Does signing a SDN ensure that their packages will still be there any more than using CIR?

The "smart thing would be sheeting them as not in, insuring this church of at least one more attempt and that their packages will be secure in the interim.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The "smart thing would be sheeting them as not in, insuring this church of at least one more attempt and that their packages will be secure in the interim.

The packages are quite secure.