Contract Boogieman
- Thread starter LagunaBrown
- Start date
LagunaBrown
Well-Known Member
When its printed I am sure your local will have a contract meeting.
BrownSkid
LeBrown Shames
You think so? I hope they'll then allow us to "vote" on their tentative deal. Don't even know why they bother, it's the greatest contract ever!
LagunaBrown
Well-Known Member
Go to the meeting, get the info and vote. Some ares it is a good contract and not worth striking over.
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
So it is all about the drivers right...Is everybody going to get 129,000 in their pension funds over the next five years. Watch how you respond before you know the FACTS. There are other people who have been and will be screwed if this contract goes through as it is. What about them?
It is not only about the 22.4's either...(DO NOT) make this a one issue contract like the Healthcare one back in 2013..This could play into the Internationals hands if any of the Supplements or Riders keep getting voted down..again like last time.
The GWI is poor considering the profits. It would bankrupt the Corporation is they if offered a dollar per raise in each of the five years.
Overtime will be cut, so if this goes through adjust your lifestyle accordingly. These 22.4s will be a money saver for the Company just by their ability to pay these new positions actual instead of guarantee (work 6 hours driving, with the option of holding them over for one and one half hours for shift work). Many will jump at the chance to go home instead of working an 9 and 1/2 day for a eight hour pay day. Most of our 22.3s are leaving before eight hours in our building currently willing to just work actual..This will happen to most of these 22.4s in time..
Not everybody is getting increases in their individual Pension Plans and the Part Time Pension is a scam.
Part timers are only getting a 30 cents per hour increase into their Health and Welfare Plan compared to the Full Timer's 50 cent one. That extra 70 is going into their Pension or so they say.
Last I hear Part timers are still considered Rank and File. Beside the 5,000 new position split over the next 5 years, Let's hear it what is in this contract that is a plus?
It is not only about the 22.4's either...(DO NOT) make this a one issue contract like the Healthcare one back in 2013..This could play into the Internationals hands if any of the Supplements or Riders keep getting voted down..again like last time.
The GWI is poor considering the profits. It would bankrupt the Corporation is they if offered a dollar per raise in each of the five years.
Overtime will be cut, so if this goes through adjust your lifestyle accordingly. These 22.4s will be a money saver for the Company just by their ability to pay these new positions actual instead of guarantee (work 6 hours driving, with the option of holding them over for one and one half hours for shift work). Many will jump at the chance to go home instead of working an 9 and 1/2 day for a eight hour pay day. Most of our 22.3s are leaving before eight hours in our building currently willing to just work actual..This will happen to most of these 22.4s in time..
Not everybody is getting increases in their individual Pension Plans and the Part Time Pension is a scam.
Part timers are only getting a 30 cents per hour increase into their Health and Welfare Plan compared to the Full Timer's 50 cent one. That extra 70 is going into their Pension or so they say.
Last I hear Part timers are still considered Rank and File. Beside the 5,000 new position split over the next 5 years, Let's hear it what is in this contract that is a plus?
BrownSkid
LeBrown Shames
Some? Ok. But why settle for some and not the all of it being good? Have we not earned it?
Strike? We are not there yet. But trust, if it does come to it, I won't hold back. UPS doesn't hold back when they implement Orion or 70hrs during last peak.
I will go to the meeting, plan on getting info and definitely vote accordingly. I will also inform those that are indifferent because enough is enough.
Superteeth2478
Well-Known Member
Too bad it's Mondays that RPCDs are likely to be laid off due to loads being advanced on the weekends on the 22.4's regular work days...that language about "No RPCDs can be laid off or displaced from their classification if 22.4s are working in the building" is useless on Mondays specifically because Monday isn't part of a 22.4's work schedule anyways, they're Tuesday-Saturday and Wednesday-Sunday, so they will probably never work on a Monday either way...
LagunaBrown
Well-Known Member
Did you make that up or did your business Agent tell you that?
Superteeth2478
Well-Known Member
Anyone with basic reading comprehension skills can understand the language, and the intent of the language as well. I mean, don't they already cut routes like mad on Mondays? Is there any language preventing them from advancing loads on the weekends to have them delivered by 22.4s? If there's a weak point in the contract, the company will ALWAYS take advantage of it. What did I make up? Please, do tell.
I mean seriously, are you
ting me bub? If you're going to refute what I say, refute it. If you can't, then shut up.
LagunaBrown
Well-Known Member
Wow your so defensive. You did not ask your Business Agent did you?Anyone with basic reading comprehension skills can understand the language, and the intent of the language as well. I mean, don't they already cut routes like mad on Mondays? Is there any language preventing them from advancing loads on the weekends to have them delivered by 22.4s? If there's a weak point in the contract, the company will ALWAYS take advantage of it. What did I make up? Please, do tell.
I mean seriously, are you
Superteeth2478
Well-Known Member
Defensive? Did you make up the meaning of that word, or did you consult your dictionary?
I provide even more backing evidence to my point, and you still refuse to refute what I say and instead ask irrelevant questions. What my business agent says is irrelevant in reference to the MASTER language. If a business agent can't see how that language can be exploited, they shouldn't be a business agent. Now, if the supplement has language that fixes the master language, that's a different story. But we can't know that, because of the brownout on supplemental language, now can we?
Again, either refute my points or shut up. You're wasting your time otherwise.
Last edited:
Dollar Chasing
Well-Known Member
Quoting my comment from another thread. Saying held loads will happen is asinine.
Superteeth2478
Well-Known Member
Not held loads, advanced loads. As in, volume that would have otherwise been delivered on Monday being delivered on Saturday or Sunday.
Brown140
Member
cachmeifucan
Well-Known Member
Vote no
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
District manager told our shop stewards this was basically the plan. Layoff forty or so RCPDs on Mondays, then have them work four tens for their guaranteed forty. Open your eyes man, your wrong. This is a fact.
You know it. Anyone that doesn't work Monday should have the right to bump a 22.4 on Saturday.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
It’s all just to limit OT during peak. They want 70 hours of work to cost the same as 40.
We know that but everyone else can't see that.
