Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by opie, Oct 4, 2018.
It has nothing to do with the IBT "not liking the results".
Read the IBT constitution.
Does your mom know you are on the internet still?
Doesn't she limit your screen time?
You can say that, but in light of the arbitrary nature of the verbage "When in the judgement of the Negotiating Committee the involved employer has made a last and final offer", it's not hard to arrive at conclusions of collusion and malfeasance.
I'm am however curious as to how and why this language was inserted into our Constitution?
Btw, with a strike looming on the horizon, I will not be able to send you any money via PayPal for any information shared on the subject.
The union has to give 72 hours notice? Correct?
"Section 2(a) The General President shall have authority to interpret the Constitution and laws of the International Union."
Ask your "hero" Fred Z.
It states the same verbiage.... in Local 89's bylaws.
Fred Z has "interpreted" numerous things.
I guess this was the rationale for the mysterious strike authorization vote that came out of nowhere. ing disgusting.
That would mean like 130,000ish votes. I don’t think it’s happening
It's not a "dodge".
Why do people have a problem.... with contractual reality ?
If the members have spoken (through overwhelming voter participation)
Their voice will be heard.
That's the M. O. At this point.
It's for sure a "dodge"....and a Constitutional reality.
....but still begs the question as to when, how, and why was it adopted.
....and needs to be amended.
But if you don't know, just say so???
You mean the one that passed overwhelmingly then the IBT agreed to the same proposals a week later...
It is a dodge.
He said what's the point of voting if the union just decides for us. Valid question, it seems to undermine the entire Democratic process.
Then you said, because they can it's in the Constitution.
That's a dodge.
"Read the Constitution" does not address his issue. All it does is point to the rule that allows them to do whatever the hell they want.
And of course you also dodged by bitching and moaning about Fred whoever.
Key word. Allows.
Doesn't force them to do anything. It's just an easy cop out.
I don't remember it working that way in 1997???
You don't remember Carey announcing that on TV?
Maybe you did, but I try to avoid your threads because they're full of . That said, you also did insist Hoffa would not impose the contract. I can quote that as well but can't be bothered right now unless you lie and challenge me to prove it. So that means "Quit changing the tune" especially applies if you actually did create a thread claiming he would impose it. Which I would like a link to, by the way, if you actually did that.
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