Do we need or want union

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by burco8080, Oct 7, 2018.

  1. burco8080

    burco8080 Member

    Let’s start by saying I voted yes for contract.Then I read it was voted down and UPS is ready to go back to the table,but then the union says do to not a enough voted so it is ratified we probably can do better with what UPS offers it’s dedicated workers.I am sorry but belonging to a union is not a benefit
     
  2. Box Ox

    Box Ox Well-Known Member

    So if the Union disappeared today, you think UPS would offer all of its package employees higher pay and benefits? Our work lives would be better?
     
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  3. Wontmake9.5

    Wontmake9.5 My job is fun

    You’re wasting your time with people like that. They bitch about union wanna be big and bad on the interwebz and as soon as they get in trouble they go running to the union.. no different then people complaining about cops and such and when they are in trouble and need help guess who they call?
     
  4. burco8080

    burco8080 Member

    Maybe back in the day it was a union for the people now it’s what is best for the union leaders
     
  5. hellfire

    hellfire no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG

    Scabs are coming out of the woodwork now..
     
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  6. burco8080

    burco8080 Member

    Don’t plan to get in trouble
     
  7. Box Ox

    Box Ox Well-Known Member

    Folks rarely do.
     
  8. Wontmake9.5

    Wontmake9.5 My job is fun

    What would you do you god forbid have a n accident or something and they want to fire you? No one plans on stuff but it’s a good safety net to have. But like I said please go ahead and get out of the Union you got it fam
     
  9. Mooseknuckle

    Mooseknuckle Active Member

    OUR union went off the deep end with all this but,I don't think we should. You do still need a union, just one with new leadership.
     
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  10. Benben

    Benben Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!

    Hey girls, the teamsters are NOT THE ONLY UNION who could represent us!

    I am sure we could find another group who would actually serve our best interests and not be trying to line their own pockets! The question would be how to unwind the pension obligations.
     
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  11. Brownpants80

    Brownpants80 Member

    In the RTW states even if you opt out, they STILL HAVE TO REPRESENT YOU BY LAW. You still get representation just like people who pay to be into the union get. You still get the wages, healthcare, and everything else without having to be apart of it. Perfect example: girl got in trouble and was about to fired in my center, she was non union. My steward still had to go to bat for her and she kept her job. However it's only in RTW states.
     
  12. Brisket

    Brisket Well-Known Member

    Paid holidays, benefits, vacations, thousands of drivers blood, sweat and tears so that we can have that today more than likely would NOT be here in the form that we currently enjoy today.

    I get it that you are mad, so am I BUT IMO the best way to change this is to get involved and help change the leadership.

    Stepping off soapbox now.
     
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  13. Dulce Bombón

    Dulce Bombón I'm Legal Gringo! UPS Latina Heat! Haters ❤ me!

    We need the Bastards, somehow.
     
  14. Benben

    Benben Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!

    But not necessarily these bastards! There are other unions out there!
     
  15. The Range

    The Range In too deep

    Considering new part-timers make more with their company issued bonus than part-timers with 4 years in, I'd say the union is not needed. That's exluding the tiny fact the union just stabbed the entire membership in the back.
     
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  16. Chukie804

    Chukie804 Management told me I'd never be a driver

    Unions aren't perfect, and ours is especially not doing so hot right now, but it is far preferable to the alternative. Vote in every election, every contract offer, even if you are ignored the effort it takes it minimal and it shows you still care. Apathy is insidious and difficult to root out. Democracy demands that you give a :censored2:.
     
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  17. Dulce Bombón

    Dulce Bombón I'm Legal Gringo! UPS Latina Heat! Haters ❤ me!

    Ohhh, I hurt your feelings?:crying: Need a tissue?:imok::hesaidsmiley:
     
  18. The Real Jack RyanMI6

    The Real Jack RyanMI6 Active Member

    Your living in a fantasy world where all grivences are won by the company, because all the workers are vindictive, lazy individuals who just want to be paid because they happen to be alive and physically present.
    Quite the contrary my friend, we need a union even one as seemingly weak and inadequate as ours may or may not be. UPS would have had 22.4s, 70hr weeks, not to mention their ultimate dream of every new employee full or part timer a PVD, and all that for only 15.00 + a 401k. oh how the memory fades for you all youngsters.
     
  19. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    The Union may not be perfect, but I doubt if I would be making over $34/hr and a monthly pension shortly for a PT job without the Union.
     
  20. specter208

    specter208 Active Member

    The members need to be patient. Right now it's important not get carried away because the contract still has not been passed. Many supplements were rejected and those need to be fixed and D.Taylor and the company have been quoted as being open to re-negotiation.