Doesn’t make sense to have a contract

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by NI1, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    9.5 list starts Jan 1.
     
  2. Two Tokes

    Two Tokes Give it to me Baby

    ROOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL DAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMNNNNNN TIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDEEEEEEEEE
    44-16 OUCH
     
  3. WTFm8

    WTFm8 Active Member

    Because 98% are uninformed of their rights and don’t file anything because of it.... and only 5% of the ones that know some of their rights file something maybe 3 times a year.
     
  4. Union is a farce. It's about as effective as getting decent advice from this site.

    The best you can do is file a grievance and that's all. It will probably take about half a year before it hits the panel.

    The whole "teamsters" idea is a lie. Just look at this thread, filled with nonsense.
     
  5. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    Disagree
     
  6. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    Disagree.
     
  7. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Saying it twice don't make it right?

    Not saying that I "agree", but some of his points are valid from the view out my window.

    Care to elaborate as to why you "disagree"???
     
  8. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    Case in point. I filed a grievance on the Building heat. January. 2018. No resolution,no panel, no nothing. No confidence in this Union to do anything about it...
     
  9. upsbeernut

    upsbeernut Sometimes i feel like a nut sometimes i dont

    Company has probably found someone to be a mole and start the union break up campaign. As a driver, 40 dollars an hour is gonna be top pay forever. The 40 hour work week is already in place and no more 9/5 grievances
     
  10. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    Union is not perfect but not a farce by far.

    Oversimplified statement about grievance procedure, much goes on prior to submitting a grievance to panel.

    Unionism and the "Teamster" idea is far from a lie.
     
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  11. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    What did you do about this non response that you claim?
     
  12. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    I continue to press for a resolution. It is complicated is the latest response
     
  13. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    If I had to guess, I believe the Union is giving the Company a pass on this
     
  14. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Did you attend any of the Local hearings ?

    You might have better luck, checking state laws and contacting OSHA.
     
  15. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    No. They told me it had to go to the National Panel under Health and Safety
     
  16. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    You have a right to be present, at any and all hearings regarding the grievance.

    The best way to insure that.... is request it, in your grievance.



    That's correct.


    Local, State, and Regional panels are not empowered to render decisions on

    National language. A positive result, always comes from the "grievant's" presence.


    Trust me.



    -Bug-
     
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  17. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    ....yet somehow, in my state, the Panel refuses to forward my grievances to the National Air Committee, for air drivers delivering, picking up, and/or shuttling ground packages....even though the language is crystal clear.

    ~(7) Air drivers may, on an exception basis, be used to make service on packages which are not air packages.
    An exception package is intended to be when an Air Driver is making a pick up, as outlined above, after the regular driver has been at the customer’s premises, and the customer has an exception ground package(s) for shipment, the air driver may make service on this package(s). Air drivers may continue to pick up Automatic Return Service packages but the features of this service will not be expanded.
    Any violation of Section 1(a) (7), shall obligate the Employer to pay the Air Driver involved the difference between his/her rate of pay and the top regular package car driver wage rate existing at that building.
    Grievances concerning violation or abuse of this shall be referred directly to the National Air Committee.~

    I have had 17 weeks worth grievances, involving over $100,000 in violations, deadlocked to the State Panel on the subject since June of 2017, which are now stuck in "Committee Hold".

    How is it that my state is "empowered" to ignore this National Master mandate???
     
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  18. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    Committee Hold. No doubt that is where mine will stay. Why even have some of these things (Heat),in the contract, if they mean nothing...
     
  19. Mooseknuckle

    Mooseknuckle Active Member

    Someone I know filed the same article and got the same result.
     
  20. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    That language, I think is still an issue of contention with the

    National Air panel. That language is what took me 2 years to get a grievance

    to the Air Committee, who deadlocked it to arbitration.... for $52 and change.


    A month later, the company just paid it.



    Your case being put on committee hold, only makes sense if the company is

    conducting some sort of "feasibility inquiry" as to what the cost would be to

    replace the current system.


    Did the company give any reason (short of just turning up the thermostat) as

    to their reasoning why it was not practical, and what's the temp in the building ?



    -Bug-