Doesn’t make sense to have a contract

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by NI1, Jan 10, 2019 at 9:35 AM.

  1. NI1

    NI1 Member

    When this company will do its best to not follow it to begin with?

    What’s the use of a union when it seems like they make deals all the time contrary to the contract.

    For example:

    January 15 is the ‘end of peak’ and why in the world our local agreed that start of 9.5 is the 21st? And my shop steward said ‘it has been agreed’

    Also, they are already meeting with some 95ers and intimidating them into getting off the list.

    25 years with this company and I thought I won’t be surprised anymore. Maybe I been giving them the benefit of the doubt. But I just can’t believe how it’s much more different now than when I first started.

    Why have a contract when they don’t want to follow them anyway?
     
  2. BadIdeaGuy

    BadIdeaGuy Active Member

    What do you think UPS would do to us all if there was no contract at all?

    Our job is to file grievances when they try to break the contract, just like they will write us up for failure to keep our obligations.

    You think drivers would be making 36 bucks an hour without a contract?
     
  3. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Where I am the "end of Peak" is January 18th this year (the Friday of the second full week of January) and 9.5 protection has been back in play since January 1st.

    Also, where I am the Local can extend Peak season (per Supplemental language), but has no contractual onus to usurp the 9.5 language in the Master.....and in my opinion any attempt to do so is a violation of Article 2 of the National Master.
     
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  4. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    With no contract there would be no 9.5 at all.
     
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  5. NI1

    NI1 Member

    Agreed. how come ups go out of their way to not follow the contract?
     
  6. NI1

    NI1 Member

    where I am 9.5 starts on the 21st. doesnt make sense at all
     
  7. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Because only a small percentage have any balls to file. Most bitch and moan but never put pen to paper.

    I don't bitch and moan. I smile and hand them a grievance at the end of the day.
     
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  8. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Is this what your Supplmental contract says?

    I would file 9.5 because the Master says Jan 1st.
     
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  9. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

    They are a business. Their job is to make as much of a profit as they can. It's the individual union members job to enforce the contract and protect themselves
     
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  10. Kanovic

    Kanovic My job is fun

    Iv heard you moan a few times.
     
  11. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    You wish!
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  12. sandwich

    sandwich The resident gearhead

    Settle down
     
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  13. sandwich

    sandwich The resident gearhead

    Solid advice, coming all the way from the whales vagina
     
  14. sandwich

    sandwich The resident gearhead

    If you dont like what's happening. Why not run to be a steward. Try to change things.

    That's what I did.
     
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  15. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

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  16. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    I'm guessing....

    You work in a "right to work" state, and the members of your Local don't vote.
     
  17. Delivery!!!

    Delivery!!! Member

    You guys are being intimidated to get off the list so they can work you over 9.5, meanwhile I'm being instructed to EC stops just to stay under 9.5 when I'm not even on the list. This company is ridiculous. When do customers start complaining about this BS ECing of packages?
     
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  18. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Don't not EC anything! Don't get blamed for some BS falsification. Bring back stops and they can EC.
     
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  19. Delivery!!!

    Delivery!!! Member

    I've gotten diad messages telling me to and I take pictures. Also live in a state where only one party needs to consent to recorded phone calls. I cover my ass.
     
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  20. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Me personally I'd still say NO to EC but it's up to you. Glad to hear you're covering your ass though.