FedEx Loses Suit In Wrongful Dismissal Case

[vantexan]

Sounds like you have a lot of imagination.

The history of automation has shown us that it creates opportunity and job growth rather than killing it off.

If tens of millions, possibly half of the working population, lose their jobs within two decades, which is unprecedented, please tell me where the innovation will come from that gives them gainful employment? For all the talk of China they still have over a half billion in poverty. Look at the favelas of Brazil to see what masses of people with little to no income looks like. And you're saying, no, the businesses who want to become more profitable by greatly reducing the amount of employed people are for some reason going to come up with other ways to employ them?

 

[Mutineer]

do not go to HR,

It is impossible to stress that enough. For ANY workplace or situation. Always give that particular office door and it's occupants as wide a berth as possible.
Along with that advice, it would also be useful to add:

Never strike or annoy a nest of winged, stinging insects.
Never set your crotch on fire.
Never ask a fat woman when she is "expecting".

 

[fedx]

If you do something and they ask for a statement, write your name a thousand times, or something similarly inane and neutral. They are hoping you will incriminate yourself, and many do.

Go straight to a lawyer, do not go to HR, and do not collect $200. I've known many people that have won large settlements, but many more who haven't received a dime, mainly because they were stupid and didn't follow the instructions in my first paragraph.

So happy to be gone from Fred's Funhouse.

When did you leave Fred's Funhouse? I worked with a guy who took a nap because the plane was late while waiting to go for his delivery and he got caught. He wrote a statement admitting to napping and they put the blame on him saying the freight could have been late because of him napping even though it was late arriving all together. He learned never to admit anything after at in any kind of written statements.

 

[Cactus]

So happy to be gone from Fred's Funhouse.

I hear ‘ya. So glad to be away from it too.

 

[59 Dano]

If tens of millions, possibly half of the working population, lose their jobs within two decades, which is unprecedented, please tell me where the innovation will come from that gives them gainful employment?

Oh I have a feeling it won't happen. Not only is it unprecedented, but there's no reason to believe it will happen.

For all the talk of China they still have over a half billion in poverty. Look at the favelas of Brazil to see what masses of people with little to no income looks like. And you're saying, no, the businesses who want to become more profitable by greatly reducing the amount of employed people are for some reason going to come up with other ways to employ them?

I'm saying (again) that history shows us that advances in automation and technology don't produce the dumb crap you're predicting.

 

[vantexan]

Oh I have a feeling it won't happen. Not only is it unprecedented, but there's no reason to believe it will happen.



I'm saying (again) that history shows us that advances in automation and technology don't produce the dumb crap you're predicting.

I bet if it was 1900 you'd be the guy hollering "get a horse!"

 

[MrFedEx]

When did you leave Fred's Funhouse? I worked with a guy who took a nap because the plane was late while waiting to go for his delivery and he got caught. He wrote a statement admitting to napping and they put the blame on him saying the freight could have been late because of him napping even though it was late arriving all together. He learned never to admit anything after at in any kind of written statements.

i left last year after being PT RTD for a couple of years. My real estate career was doing really well, and my wife took a new position with excellent insurance benefits. Plus, Uncle Fred was dangling the "leave early" incentive of covering your medical pre-Medicaid, so I left. I was only working about 4-5 hours a day anyway, and coming in at 0230.

The statement is only there to protect the company, not you. HR and Legal look it over to see if you violated policy somehow, and even if you didn't, they'll create something if they want you gone. Never trust HR,management, or the faux and worthless GFT process.

I miss a lot of the employees and customers, but not the company. Not one bit.

 

[59 Dano]

I bet if it was 1900 you'd be the guy hollering "get a horse!"

If only I owned a casino...

 

[vantexan]

If only I owned a casino...

...you'd automate it and tell your employees that great new jobs are coming soon.

 

[fedx]

i left last year after being PT RTD for a couple of years. My real estate career was doing really well, and my wife took a new position with excellent insurance benefits. Plus, Uncle Fred was dangling the "leave early" incentive of covering your medical pre-Medicaid, so I left. I was only working about 4-5 hours a day anyway, and coming in at 0230.

The statement is only there to protect the company, not you. HR and Legal look it over to see if you violated policy somehow, and even if you didn't, they'll create something if they want you gone. Never trust HR,management, or the faux and worthless GFT process.

I miss a lot of the employees and customers, but not the company. Not one bit.

You sound a lot like a co-worker of mine who quit last year. He was a RTD for a couple of years too and was written up for napping when he was a courier. Lol. I guess I'll just have to wonder.

 

[MAKAVELI]

You sound a lot like a co-worker of mine who quit last year. He was a RTD for a couple of years too and was written up for napping when he was a courier. Lol. I guess I'll just have to wonder.

Every RTD I've come across takes a nap, plays golf, goes to the grocery store, etc. and complains the most about their job than anybody else.

 

[59 Dano]

...you'd automate it and tell your employees that great new jobs are coming soon.

...I'd make so much money off of you via sucker bets that I'd almost feel bad. Almost.

Casinos are already overwhelmingly automated with slots and VP. There are automated versions of the more popular table games (craps, roulette, blackjack) that feature slightly better odds but are less fun that their live counterparts.

 

[bacha29]

What VT is concerned about and with good reason is the potential for increased social tensions and civil unrest rivaling that of the 1960's.

 

[vantexan]

What VT is concerned about and with good reason is the potential for increased social tensions and civil unrest rivaling that of the 1960's.

Or even worse.

 

[vantexan]

...I'd make so much money off of you via sucker bets that I'd almost feel bad. Almost.

Casinos are already overwhelmingly automated with slots and VP. There are automated versions of the more popular table games (craps, roulette, blackjack) that feature slightly better odds but are less fun that their live counterparts.

Well we know what your particular vice is.

 

[XEQaF]

i left last year after being PT RTD for a couple of years. My real estate career was doing really well, and my wife took a new position with excellent insurance benefits. Plus, Uncle Fred was dangling the "leave early" incentive of covering your medical pre-Medicaid, so I left. I was only working about 4-5 hours a day anyway, and coming in at 0230.

The statement is only there to protect the company, not you. HR and Legal look it over to see if you violated policy somehow, and even if you didn't, they'll create something if they want you gone. Never trust HR,management, or the faux and worthless GFT process.

I miss a lot of the employees and customers, but not the company. Not one bit.

It's good to hear that you were able to establish yourself and find your way out of the "fun house"
To add to your; never trust HR, Mgmt etc. remarks, I find it also a complete waste of resources to have on the Ground side a "Contractor Relations Dept". WTF! This is merely a façade of virtue. Can someone explain what they are really set up to do?

How can a Contractor Relations "specialist" (as they call themselves) act with your best interests in mind when they are being paid directly by the company? Seems like another layer of 'Fred-ethics'. I could see a better solution is to scrap that department in favor of contractors pooling their resources in retaining a 3rd party legal team who are actually well versed in contractual law.

 

[It will be fine]

It's good to hear that you were able to establish yourself and find your way out of the "fun house"
To add to your; never trust HR, Mgmt etc. remarks, I find it also a complete waste of resources to have on the Ground side a "Contractor Relations Dept". WTF! This is merely a façade of virtue. Can someone explain what they are really set up to do?

How can a Contractor Relations "specialist" (as they call themselves) act with your best interests in mind when they are being paid directly by the company? Seems like another layer of 'Fred-ethics'. I could see a better solution is to scrap that department in favor of contractors pooling their resources in retaining a 3rd party legal team who are actually well versed in contractual law.

Contractor relations is your PGH legal department go between. They aren’t there to act in your interest, they are there to limit FedEx legal exposure. You go to them when local management is violating the terms of the agreement creating a problem that could involve legal.

 

[XEQaF]

Contractor relations is your PGH legal department go between. They aren’t there to act in your interest, they are there to limit FedEx legal exposure. You go to them when local management is violating the terms of the agreement creating a problem that could involve legal.

Thanks. What has been your experience with your rep? Have you ever called upon them, and were they effective?

 

[It will be fine]

Thanks. What has been your experience with your rep? Have you ever called upon them, and were they effective?

Yes. I dealt with them frequently shortly after ISP transition since there was a lot of management that didn’t fully grasp the changes and still tried to maintain control over my personnel. I’ve had a few issues run up to PGH that resulted in changes, nothing major but necessary. I operate out of multiple buildings so I’ve dealt with several reps. If an issue is serious there’s only one that is worth talking to and he’s very good. Doesn’t always give me the answers I’d like but is very reasonable and can have a healthy debate without getting emotional. He’s also not afraid to say he doesn’t have an answer and will get back to me when he does.

If you use Contractor Relations correctly they can be helpful. They aren’t a second management, they aren’t really HR, they are more about contract interpretation and execution.

 

[59 Dano]

Well we know what your particular vice is.

My vice is free stuff (like beer). We have the buddies' trip to LV each year (sometimes twice a year) and it's fun. My gaming budget for each trip is usually around $150 to $200. Most of them love to gamble. A couple of us don't care for it but love getting free drinks, free (or at least heavily discounted) food, and comp hogging, along with hanging out and having a good time. Two guys at a craps table, betting $30/hand in offsetting bets, getting free booze, and earning better comps than real gamblers who are making real bets that aren't half as large as ours. It's gravy.

If I really wanted to risk some money, I'd play blackjack and count cards, except that the blackjack rules (and most other table games) are becoming so anti-player that it isn't worth it unless you have a huge bankroll and tons and tons of time.