Forced 1 hr lunch

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Thatguy123, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    I have a rural route. There arent any restaurants in the area where I take lunch.
    I have lived and delivered in this community for over 26 years now, my wife works in this community, my kids went to school here. Many of my customers are also friends.
    So if I am parked under a tree and get approached by a customer who needs their medication or other urgent package, I’m not going to tell them that they have to sit and wait for another 20 minutes until my lunch or break is over. That is rude and unprofessional and a poor way to treat someone who is not only a customer but a fellow community member.
    I’m going to give them their package, and then add 30 seconds or a minute or however long it took me to grab that package onto the end of my lunch or break period.
    The contract language says we are entitled to an uninterrupted meal period. The intent was to prevent management from dispatching us during the meal period or instructing us to take it in multiple short intervals.
    It was not intended to prevent us from being respectful to customers in the scenario I have just described.
     
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  2. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    What works in the big city might not work in the country.
     
  3. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    I have seen pictures of some of your lunch spots (and enjoyed them very much)....but we for sure live in different worlds.

    When I clock out for my lunch, I'm on my time, and it's rude for a customer to disturb me....outside of a medical/emergency situation.

    I have delivered my bid route for 20 years and also grew up there, but unlike you, I don't have this sense of civic duty while driving UPS's truck.
    I'm simply here to sell my time.

    In the end, 9 out of 10 people who try to interrupt lunch break, either want their Air Jordans or a box of weed.
     
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  4. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Bring the box of weed back to the center manager so he/she can give it to the cops to take care of.
     
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  5. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Why not?

    All of the meal period language that I familiar with is provided for in the regional supplements, which encompass multiple geographic and demographic variables.

    I don't see a nationally defined time increment for our meal periods to be an autonomous issue.
     
  6. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    You can hit end meal and deliver the pkg. when you go back to finish meal, the count down will start where you ended it. At least here it does.

    This is why locking the board during lunch doesn’t prevent people from working through their lunch.
     
  7. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    If someone is determined to work through their lunch it's going to happen. Locking the board stops most people being that 80% of the drivers these days rely on edd.

    Giving a customer a package on the rare occurrence that they show up to your truck looking for it is different then delivering 20 stops without a board and inputting them later.

    The only way to stop someone from working through their lunch is management disciplining them. Which we all know is never going to happen.
     
  8. 22.34life

    22.34life Active Member

    My supplement allows u to take a 30 minute lunch and two 15 minute breaks for drivers.so yes u can take a 30 minute lunch.
     
  9. 22.34life

    22.34life Active Member

    Well in my supplement u can.
     
  10. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Not a chance.

    I did that a couple of times and got zero feedback, then spent weeks looking over my shoulder.

    That's when I adopted the attitude that I don't care, or need to know, what is in any package....just sign here please.
     
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  11. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    I did it a couple times. Once the feds got involved. The other time was a pick up. The local police took the pkg back to the shipper. The police gave them a warning. They said it was a federal offense to ship even though it’s legal in the state.
     
  12. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    I have never heard of local mgmt saying anything if someone worked through lunch. But know a couple people who were fired for it....the decision came from above
     
  13. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    It has less to do with my sense of “civic duty” and more to do with my strong desire to not be an arse hole to the people I live and work among.
    Seriously. I am sitting there in the truck eating a sandwich and a customer pulls up next to me asking for the signature required package they are expecting that is literally 6 feet away from me on a shelf.
    I am not going to make them sit there for 23 minutes until I am done with my lunch.
    I’m gonna open the door, grab the package, let them sign, and then probably spend a minute or so chatting with them about football, or the weather, or how their kids/dogs/garden is doing. Because in a few days or a week, I will be seeing them again.
     
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  14. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    So lets say you deliver to a business and the guy who normally signs for everything is busy/on the phone/in the crapper/ otherwise unavailable.
    There is another employee sitting there at a table eating a sandwich or having a smoke break who you know from past experience is perfectly willing to sign for packages when the normal receiver is gone.
    Do you ask him for his signature when you know he is on his break?
    Do you refuse his signature if he offers it because you know he is on his break?
    If you asked him to sign and he said “no, you need to wait for another 9 minutes until my break is over” wouldn’t you think he was being a bit of a jerk? And would you be happy about loading 200 lbs of boxes back into the car as NR1 so that you could re-handle them again tomorrow?
    Cooperation and courtesy go both ways...
     
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  15. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member

    If you are managment it's sad you've internalized company propaganda

    If you are a driver even sadder. Did you not read the post where he says there is a state law in his state prohibiting this?
     
  16. Returntosender

    Returntosender Well-Known Member

    You think ups follows the law. They will pay fine to send a message.
     
  17. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member

    To send a message that they will pay out the fines and then get sued for wrongful termination if they try to fire this guy for not taking an hour lunch when the state law says they can't force more than a half hour?
     
  18. Returntosender

    Returntosender Well-Known Member

    Billion dollar in profits. Paying a few hundred grand is nothing. I speak cause employee is on workers comp company pays attorneys more money than it would cost just resolve the broken leg.
     
  19. Est.1998

    Est.1998 Active Member

    This is true. Sometimes I work out, visit family or friends who live nearby, today I painted my hand truck. Sometimes I'll take the whole hour at one time, other times I break it up into 15mins throughout the day.
     
  20. purehavanne

    purehavanne Active Member

    They tried to enforce 11-3 lunch here. That lasted about a week because of all the late savers. I take one hr and lay down and relax. Back and feet feel fresh rest of the day.