Hey lets give this topic of teamsters,apwa,ups pension thing a break. Every time I leave the Labor relations forum I need to pop 4 extra strength tylenol tablets. Some of you should have been authors or writers instead of UPS deliver boys. Dont you know there are only two things certian in life, Death(by reading the labor forums) and TAX's. Oh and also union dues(just kidding)...................Well, I think i just heard the bell ring, breaks over.