Ground Driver, Am I Being Underpaid?

[STFXG]

Yeah and I was asking a question back to you? Do you know how to answer it?

Case in point.

 

[Browndriver5]

That wasn't a question, it was a statement. Do you know the difference?

Can you tell me how you went to school for 10 years and have every degree in the world? I want to hear all about it

 

[Browndriver5]

Case in point.

You cant respond because you know I'm right. Employees are underpaid all across the US.

 

[Browndriver5]

Here is a fact no matter if UPS does go bankrupt we will still be known as a classy company who have well respected employees. You on the other hand work for Fed Ex and are looked as trash because of the drivers you guys put out there. So no matter what we will always be better than you

 

[It will be fine]

Lol if you believe its because you are "faster" then you are clueless.

Our ground service is much faster than yours. It's a fact, not really up for debate. You guys use the rails a lot more than we do.

We overpay our employees, have higher costs and still on you as far as profit. How does that make your liberal company feel?

Our Ground segment runs around a 20% profit. You guys don't separate out your segments as far as I'm aware, but I'm sure you're not even close.

It seems you are one of the few Brown employees that believes your wages will stay up there next contract. The union no longer has any leverage with everyone understanding that a strike is off the table. Good luck to you though.

 

[Route 66]

Yeah and I was asking a question back to you?

It sounds like you're questioning whether you were questioning him or not???

 

[Browndriver5]

Our ground service is much faster than yours. It's a fact, not really up for debate. You guys use the rails a lot more than we do.



Our Ground segment runs around a 20% profit. You guys don't separate out your segments as far as I'm aware, but I'm sure you're not even close.

It seems you are one of the few Brown employees that believes your wages will stay up there next contract. The union no longer has any leverage with everyone understanding that a strike is off the table. Good luck to you though.

I wasn't debating whether your ground was faster than ours? And no I don not think the drivers will stay at current wages. I think newly hired drivers will be paid crap like fed ex drivers and the current full timers will remain at their current wages

 

[MAKAVELI]

I wasn't debating whether your ground was faster than ours? And no I don not think the drivers will stay at current wages. I think newly hired drivers will be paid crap like fed ex drivers and the current full timers will remain at their current wages

Why would you vote for a contract like that?

 

[Supaleader06]

Honestly, at large fedex statations in metropolitan cities, i can vouch that fedex couriers work just as hard as fedex couriers. Doesnt ups already come with a sorted out truck? Fedex has to sort their own. And doesnt ups scanner tell them exactly how to runna route? Psssh fedex powerpads arent even that smart

 

[Operational needs]

Honestly, at large fedex statations in metropolitan cities, i can vouch that fedex couriers work just as hard as fedex couriers. Doesnt ups already come with a sorted out truck? Fedex has to sort their own. And doesnt ups scanner tell them exactly how to runna route? Psssh fedex powerpads arent even that smart

Might want to fix your first sentence. The part about the Powerpad not telling couriers how to run their route isn't totally true. Areas with DRA will download that info to the Powerpad, as well as provide a printout.

 

[Operational needs]

Why would you vote for a contract like that?

Very true. After all, the employees are the ones who vote in a contract.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Lol if you believe its because you are "faster" then you are clueless. Yes I do think Fed ex under pays a long with the rest of the big companies in the world who on everyone. Theres a reason there are more jobs in the world now and its because companies are paying two employees for the price of one and its crap. There is no reason a fed ex driver should make what a mcdonalds worker makes and if you believe that then you have never worked a day in your life or just a dumb ass

Their time in transit beats us in almost every lane.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Our ground service is much faster than yours. It's a fact, not really up for debate. You guys use the rails a lot more than we do.



Our Ground segment runs around a 20% profit. You guys don't separate out your segments as far as I'm aware, but I'm sure you're not even close.

It seems you are one of the few Brown employees that believes your wages will stay up there next contract. The union no longer has any leverage with everyone understanding that a strike is off the table. Good luck to you though.

We are profitable but nowhere near 20%.

 

[NYCFXG]

We are profitable but nowhere near 20%.

The reason for that is obvious. The amount the average UPS driver is paid + benefits and the amount of work being done by each truck will never compare to that of a Fedex Ground/HG. There is/was a balance of power in UPS between management and drivers/employees. Fedex is basically a chain of users from the top to the bottom. Regional managers using their SMs, SMs using their TMs/P&Ds who use the Contractors who use their drivers who abuse their helpers. We're all just trying to survive. I talk to the UPS guys on my routes a few times a week and they know exactly how good they have it.

 

[whenIgetthere]

Might want to fix your first sentence. The part about the Powerpad not telling couriers how to run their route isn't totally true. Areas with DRA will download that info to the Powerpad, as well as provide a printout.

We were told recently that our station will never be DRA. Hope that's true, but we know how much we can count on anything management says being the truth.

 

[MrFedEx]

It sounds like you're questioning whether you were questioning him or not???

I question your line of questioning regarding the questioning? Who is on first?

 

[CJinx]

i can vouch that fedex couriers work just as hard as fedex couriers.

... the ?

 

[Supaleader06]

... the ?

I like how you cut off the "at large" stations part.

At my station i work 50 hours a week....
And im part time.

 

[l22]

We were told recently that our station will never be DRA. Hope that's true, but we know how much we can count on anything management says being the truth.

DRA is fun to use. Follow the stop numbers and go by the DRA map. You guys will have it eventually I hope.

 

[Code 82 Approved]

So we keep paying their ebt cards and emergency room bills? That is brilliant up.

Who's ebt and er? Injured and hungry Ground drivers?