BigUnionGuy
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I believe we will reach the 2/3rd no vote.
It will be interesting to see.
Just waiting to see all the posts about how the vote was "rigged".
I believe we will reach the 2/3rd no vote.
I believe we will reach the 2/3rd no vote.
Plus all of the Feeder drivers that this contract has no negative effect on other then the small wage increases.I think you underestimate the number of drivers that would sell their soul for some relief from the OT.
They would have to.
You just can't pick and choose what parts of the IBT Constitution to apply.
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What does the final part of it mean then? "or such additional
provisions as can be negotiated by it."
To me it sounds like further negotiations are available. I can read legal documents, but I don't understand everything, much like anyone else(even lawyers) so I'm willing to accept what I think it sounds like is wrong and would like a clarification.
Hes 77, only place hes running is the grave.If hall plans to run I believe he has a lot to lose if this goes down like that.
Hes 77, only place hes running is the grave.
I believe we will reach the 2/3rd no vote.
Not under the provisions post in this thread, but perhaps under Art 12 Sec 6, as was enacted in the three imposed supplements last time?i agree. i think the vote no percentage will be as high or close to the 93% strike vote. the total number of actual UPS teamster voter percentage will be a disgrace as usual.
riddle me this...
if say 26,000 total of the 260,000 ups teamsters actually vote and we crush it with a 93% no vote lets say, (cause the only people that actually voted where a scattering of fulltime drivers who voted no) that's like a 10% total turnout. could they, would they impose?
No one is talking about the quantity of members that voted. Only that 93% of the unknown quantity voted to strike.Not under the provisions post in this thread, but perhaps under Art 12 Sec 6, as was enacted in the three imposed supplements last time?
Article 12 Section 6. The General Executive Board is empowered to amend, delete, or add to thisArticle if at any time it believes such action will be in the interests of the International Union or its subordinate bodies.
....the ultimate "trap door".
Article 12 Section 6. The General Executive Board is empowered to amend, delete, or add to thisArticle if at any time it believes such action will be in the interests of the International Union or its subordinate bodies.
No one is talking about the quantity of members that voted. Only that 93% of the unknown quantity voted to strike.
I betcha several thousand voted. When people are upset they vote.exactly! 100 people could have voted out of 260,000 and 93 voted no and the WHOLE WORLD ran with this ridiculous story of a massive strike vote.
Or the ones who have a memory stretching back 5 years.You mean the vote for this contract wasn't already decided at the beginning of "negotiations"?
That's what I keep hearing from people who only care about the Union when it pertains to them.
I betcha several thousand voted. When people are upset they vote.
Just like the posters coming on here.
They're sick of it too.
So is this "tentative/handshale agreement", by definition, for purposes of the IBT Constitution verbage quoted, a "last, best, and final offer"?They would have to.
You just can't pick and choose what parts of the IBT Constitution to apply.
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So is this "tentative/handshale agreement", by definition, for purposes of the IBT Constitution verbage quoted, a "last, best, and final offer"?
So is this "tentative/handshale agreement", by definition, for purposes of the IBT Constitution verbage quoted, a "last, best, and final offer"?
So is this "tentative/handshake agreement", by definition, for purposes of the IBT Constitution verbiage quoted, a "last, best, and final offer"?What the members want.... is what they will get.
Don't vote ?
Oh well.