FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
Nah, I'm slow everyday
Is this allowed...???
- Thread starter ThatOnePreloader
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ThatOnePreloader
Unprofessional Professional
Well for one operating a phone and driving is illegal in my state now. Don't know about you but that in itself is a problem vs. the methods we were told to use.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
Hands free is illegal?
If so, make the call to set up a meet point before you start to drive.
Your GPS is also legal and should give you audible turn by turn directions.
Or use a map before you leave.
Telling me it is unsafe to shuttle packages to drivers, get real.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
ThatOnePreloader
Unprofessional Professional
It's not hands free. My "GPS" is my phone. I have to make multiple stops with multiple drivers at very specific times. You drive? I'm sure you don't have time to wait around for some kid to bring you a box or 2. A map????? Hahahaha ok geezer. I don't think I even know a person with a map.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
Boy I hope you don't have any aspirations of driving.
ThatOnePreloader
Unprofessional Professional
That's the last thing my little heart desires. It's not about complaining. If I have to do all of it to run some late air for OT I don't care. It's more about the legality of it. Not trying to be a D lol.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
OK. Your phone gives you audible turn by turn directions.
Meet the first driver. Call the next and see where he wants to meet. Plug into your phone and go.
Repeat.
Part of the job.
Hope your phone never breaks.
Even in school, we have calculators. But we still learn math by adding and subtracting on a piece of paper first.
I know, you guys would be lost without your phone.
ThatOnePreloader
Unprofessional Professional
Oh my. Turn by turn audible directions are delayed trash. Even if I call the driver before hand I'm still operating my phone for the gps (since like I said, the TBT Audible sucks). "Part of the job" yeah. right. Till you show up at a designated spot and the driver already took off because they don't have time to wait all day. I'm not going to go purchase an atlas just to drop boxes to drivers. Don't get paid enough for that. I'm not saying it's difficult, it's not. I'm just saying it's not efficient or "safe" by COMPANY standards. I personally couldn't care less about using my GPS and driving.
SmithBarney
Well-Known Member
Come on youngin you kids are supposed to have all the best gadgets, What piece of trash phone are you using that you can't get good directions.. my 4yr old Android smart phone gives great directions, even with offline maps(I hate to use data)
ThatOnePreloader
Unprofessional Professional
The directions are fine. The voice over for the turn by turn is slow.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
So you're saying the Company is two-faced?
And how long did it take you to come to this revelation?
Congratulations.
Most people figure this out within the first month.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Because they may be delivering alcohol or other age restricted signature required packages.
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What The Hawk?
Guest
Doesn't matter. I know when something doesn't seem right. Even if it may be allowed.
ThatOnePreloader
Unprofessional Professional
And if I were to run an air containing a bottle of wine? Then what?
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
Then nothing. You're fine.
You are shuttling, not delivering.
Different regulations for transporting compared to selling/serving or delivering.
In most states, you only need to be 18 to sell alcohol.
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
Well according to that language he was an air exception driver that day, which starts his progression. So he'll be at the air driver top rate in 2 years when he's 21 and can bid the position. Sounds like a win for him.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
UPS allows it, the union allows it and the law allows it.
You just posted your opinion, which I don't have a problem with you expressing your opinion.
The problem is that you have been posting your opinion as fact, until you finally realized that this practice is allowed.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
Nope.
Article 40 Section 6
Part-time employees who are awarded a scheduled part time air
driver job shall receive progression credit in accordance with the
following: for each four (4) days on which exception air work was
performed in the two (2) years immediately prior to the bid award,
one (1) month of progression credit shall be granted. In addition, if
a bid part-time air driver is displaced, he/she will retain his/her progression
credit under paragraph (a.) for any air exception work.
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
All hourly wages for employees covered under Article 40 will be determined in accordance with this Section, Article 22 and Article 41 where specified.
a. Part-time air drivers including exception air drivers will be paid as follows:
Start $12.50
Seniority $13.50
Seniority Date plus 12 months $14.00
Seniority Date plus 18 months $14.50
Seniority Date plus 24 months Top Rate
