Jax Using golf cart helpers instead of cover drivers

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by CoverdriverJax15, Nov 4, 2013.

  1. CoverdriverJax15

    CoverdriverJax15 New Member

    Here in Jacksonville our center managers are using golf cart helpers instead of working us cover drivers. This time last year all of us were working everyday and now we're all sitting at home not working. I have never filed a grievance in my 11 1/2 year career with Ups but I'm thinking about it because of this. Is this grounds for a grievance?
  2. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    That sounds like a lot more fun than driving a package car.
  3. BrownChoice

    BrownChoice Active Member

    BrownChoice approves this post... Lol
  4. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Welcome to Ga, we've been doing this for years.
  5. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    ​Jax is in Ga now?
  6. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    We have been using them in our Center the last couple of years. They were supposed to put one in my biggest subdivision last year, but my supervisor waited too long to contact the HOA. He did the same thing this year too, much to my relief. I didn't want to mess with a Helper and then have to carry stops and mess with a third DIAD for the golf cart guy. It seems like a stupid idea to me, I don't understand how it can save much money.
  7. Gumby

    Gumby *

    UPS math..........................spend a nickel, save a penny! Start you ten minutes later plus 10 more stops = earlier punch out!................lol
  8. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    No, but Ga was in Jax.
  9. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    ​And conquered.
  10. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Btw I do a pod drop off and a golf cart trailer during peak. I drop off a neighborhood of stuff in one the Portable On Demand storage units, plus a Uhaul for another subdivision. Both have golf cart helpers using DIADs they have been loosely trained on. What's even better is management actually tries to pawn off their production and issues on us, as if we are suppose to a mange them.

    These are the times when staying consistent by not using your personal phone for business comes into play. If either area needs help or runs into problems, they call management, not me.
  11. Johney

    Johney Well-Known Member

    Not if it's raining.:rain:
  12. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    With the differences between driver rate OT, and jumper rate, they can get approx. 4 hours jumper time for each hour they would have to pay a driver to drive that said jumper around.

    One is suppose to start in my center this year as well. We'll see how it goes. I hear that jumper is guaranteed 6 hrs on that route. Don't know what the cart looks like, but hope it is enclosed with heat.
  13. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    Yes I would file on this. All regular employees should be working prior to working any helpers. File ASAP usually only have 5 days to file, then file again in 5 days if not fixed. Repeat until heard or stopped.
  14. cb1969

    cb1969 Member

    Yes, it is grounds. Though the golf carts are a back door agreement between UPS and your local. They can not use any helper while you are laid off.
  15. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Active Member

    My center used a golf cart helper one yr in one if my large res areas. I filed 2 grievances and never heard anything about it, but they haven't done it since.
  16. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    It would seem to me, someone riding around by themselves using their own DIAD, is a driver, not a helper. We need better language to stop this abuse.
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Abuse? It sounds like a smart business decision as this is a very effective use of a helper.

    Our mall driver drops a TP-60 in the parking lot. His helper works out of the TP-60. He has his own DIAD----would you consider him to be a driver?
  18. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    Yes, A driver out of a satellite center.
  19. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

  20. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    Absolutely not, just because he is by himself does not justify driver status.

    What is he driving? A cart.:rofl: