Joke is on you

[burrheadd]

The premise that UPS will have a better offer if this is voted down does not seem logical to me. I don't think the company and union would spend months negotiating and then assume it will be voted down. If it is voted down terms will change some for the good and some for the bad. It's called collective bargining

So, the first one gets voted down

You think a worse contract is going to pass?

Makes no sense

 

[Frankie's Friend]

That was only in January's cold month thru August 11th.
Heat brings out the best in people with little to do but shoot people for a living.

 

[siouxman]

So, the first one gets voted down

You think a worse contract is going to pass?

Makes no sense

Depends on your definition of worse.everybody has a opinion on what is good and bad

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

So, the first one gets voted down

You think a worse contract is going to pass?

Makes no sense

It's going to be close bit o think this garbage is going to pass.

 

[542thruNthru]

It's going to be close bit o think this garbage is going to pass.

I think it's going to be imposed. I really do.

 

[retiredTxfeeder]

UPS wouldn't come back with a worse offer. They have such a big advantage right now, they could make a bunch of consessions, and STILL be way ahead of the game, and they know it. They will be able to say, "look! we decided to give you this, this, and this." And cry all the way to the bank.

 

[Time for change]

But TonyQ said the company will strike us if we vote no lol. Going to be close! Need to hit the 50% and if we do, it’s a no I believe and back to the table.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I think it's going to be imposed. I really do.

If we get less than a 50% turn out and less than two thirds no votes and the supplements pass....

 

[siouxman]

UPS wouldn't come back with a worse offer. They have such a big advantage right now, they could make a bunch of consessions, and STILL be way ahead of the game, and they know it. They will be able to say, "look! we decided to give you this, this, and this." And cry all the way to the bank.

What concessions are you willing to give up in this collective bargaining.

 

[PT Car Washer]

How is that possible? Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the country!

And 20 miles away, some of the weakest.

If we get less than a 50% turn out and less than two thirds no votes and the supplements pass....

That is the way I see this being played out. For most UPS Teamsters, the 22.4 is a non issue.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

And 20 miles away, some of the weakest.

That is the way I see this being played out. For most UPS Teamsters, the 22.4 is a non issue.

It's not so much the 22.4 jobs. Besides the much lower pay, they don't have the 9.5 language. At least for me there a huge issue.

 

[Wilson1397]

It's not so much the 22.4 jobs. Besides the much lower pay, they don't have the 9.5 language. At least for me there a huge issue.

If they abuse them like we think there will be a huge turnover rate. Few will ever even see the $30/hr

 

[PT Car Washer]

It's not so much the 22.4 jobs. Besides the much lower pay, they don't have the 9.5 language. At least for me there a huge issue.

Nobody seems to care about the PT Hub worker making $35.65/hr working next to a newbie making $10/hr. Equal pay for equal work?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Nobody seems to care about the PT Hub worker making $35.65/hr working next to a newbie making $10/hr. Equal pay for equal work?

Why should a 30 year driver make the same amount as a 4 year driver?

 

[Wilson1397]

Nobody seems to care about the PT Hub worker making $35.65/hr working next to a newbie making $10/hr. Equal pay for equal work?

Probably because it’s a part time job. Was never meant to be a career. Just my opinion.

 

[Time for change]

Nobody seems to care about the PT Hub worker making $35.65/hr working next to a newbie making $10/hr. Equal pay for equal work?

I’d settle for a catch up raise, the skilled language/pay being fixed, and having the gap narrowed just a tiny bit.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Why should a 30 year driver make the same amount as a 4 year driver?

Because it is a Union job. Why should a black or a Mexican or a woman make as much as a white man?

 

[PT Car Washer]

Probably because it’s a part time job. Was never meant to be a career. Just my opinion.

Because it is a Union job and should be equal pay for equal work. Hard to talk to you young guys and your elitist notions.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Because it is a Union job. Why should a black or a Mexican or a woman make as much as a white man?

I'm just going by your example.

 

[Time for change]

Probably because it’s a part time job. Was never meant to be a career. Just my opinion.

Except there are pensions so that tosses that idea out the window. You’d think given profits and company growth part time wages here wouldn’t have regressed since the 80’s. Before all you say that’s not true, adjust for inflation and compared to top driver rate. We have actually regressed bigtime.