Labor Shortage
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oldngray
nowhere special
Top PT rate in 1980 was same as FT. I think it was around $14/hour. And there was only a 1 year progression to get to top rate.
PT Car Washer
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As a preloader I made about $.50/hr less then top rate driver. Not sure about 1980 but earlier it was a 90 progression to top rate.
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
The infamous “82” (sucker) bonus two tier contract changed that for good.
Jackie Presser was at the helm...the heavy set gentlemen who was carried in smiling during a Teamster Convention by members dressed in Roman soldier costumes.
That photo will stand as a classic example of what a Union should not be. Elitism to the nigh degree, remember we are paying these guys their salaries and they need to be working for us not the other way around.
nWo
Well-Known Member
Maybe we should give them health insurance and stop treating them like dog
?The company across the street pays better, has benefits from day 1, has better hours and better working conditions. And why would anyone want to work with people that , "don't like that they're starting at a better rate?"
nWo
Well-Known Member
That might be true. But it's no excuse to keep the starting wage stuck in 1985. The starting wage going up is good and is long overdue.
Maple Grove MN Driver
Cocaine Mang!
Made brown
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Its very disturbing how the youth today won't sacrifice for something better in the future. Nobody can be bothered with the future. They would prefer to get decent job now and stay there. The full time jobs here pay really good, and are earned but everyone wants it all day one.
I hear this a lot from my friends at other union jobs with pensions and excellent benefits, they cannot get people to work for them. My buddy said they are hiring people full time on day one and offering a 7000 dollar sign on bonus. This is unheard of typically in the union LTL world. Most had to start as a casual with no set schedule for months before they would make you full time.
I hear this a lot from my friends at other union jobs with pensions and excellent benefits, they cannot get people to work for them. My buddy said they are hiring people full time on day one and offering a 7000 dollar sign on bonus. This is unheard of typically in the union LTL world. Most had to start as a casual with no set schedule for months before they would make you full time.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
It's not that disturbing to imagine that people want to make the same money for doing the same job as someone else. People who are ok with making less are suckers. The future is great, but you have to survive long enough to get there. When people who are running things keep getting less and less competent, it doesn't instill much confidence in a bright future. People are wise to get as much as they can while they still can.
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Recently I dug up some old contract books...here it is in a nutshell..
Starting hourly rate in The 1987 for part timers was negotiated at $8 .00 an hour.
Twenty one years later in 2008 it was at $8.50.
It went up .a whole .50 cent in two decades.
PT Car Washer
Well-Known Member
In 1982 the negotiated starting PT rate was $8/hr. 26 years later. The Union called it a victory for PT.
Well the problem is they should have done what it is contract where every year the starting rate goes up a little bit each year
Swanson
Henry Swanson's my name, and excitement's my game.
So if minimum wage was 3.50$ an hour in 82 and ups was paying 8$ an hour. That would be around 30$ an hour in today's money.But people like @Well-Known Member wouldn't stand for that despite UPS making record profits.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
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Back From Break
I hate to burst your bubble, but $8/hr in 1982 is roughly $22/hr today.
And guess what? That's what UPS is paying in the markets that they cannot get enough workers.
Learn economics before you go spewing your mouth about something you don't have a clue about.
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Swanson
Henry Swanson's my name, and excitement's my game.
I was off by a few dollars big deal.You fall for it every time,get to the part where you say part time union brothers and sisters don't vote deserve nothing while ups keeps raking in record profits!!By the way I am making a whopping 5.50 in 1982's dollar value. Have you ever considered going in to management?I could totally see you shaving time of part timers time cards.
PT Car Washer
Well-Known Member
I agree that $8/hr in 1982 was still way above minimum wage. It was also a large wage concession to what PT wages were before. I never believed that PT starting wages would stagnant for 30 years.
Swanson
Henry Swanson's my name, and excitement's my game.
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