Load all NDA's

[Brownslave688]

Ops management are often forced to choose between doing that or continually missing the unattainable numbers IE sets every year.


Business plan on our preload is an 89.7. Yet this month our PKG plan is a 114. I get we have to make money, but that's just stupid. We're forcing more work on less guys and expect everything to be the same. Nobody accounts for the inevitable misload cost involved. And before you tell me we need to run a shorter preload explain to me what we do when DAILY the air trailer is late.

Oh wait, You're going to tell me to put more premium service providers on road to make service on NDA and push the start time back. Then you guys come back and tell me our SPC aren't high enough because we've shortened our work day and we need to cut more routes. It's endless.

In OPS management we don't have the same days everyday. The only constant is you fixed one metric you screwed up on yesterday in favor of another one. In IE's eyes everything is on time everyday, variables never change, and the only reason we don't make our numbers is because we don't want to. I roll in the door at 530 everyday and roll out between 6PM and 7PM. Go ahead and tell me I don't attempt to activate my brain.

BOOM

 

[TearsInRain]

Ops management are often forced to choose between doing that or continually missing the unattainable numbers IE sets every year.

IE goals are based on your demonstrated ability, so they're definitely attainable

Business plan on our preload is an 89.7. Yet this month our PKG plan is a 114.

if your PKG plan is a 114 while your BP is a 89.7, your planner or PKG specialist should be fired; that's not IE taking you to pound town, that's "the person who plans my PKG is a lunatic"

anyways, a preload PPH is meaningless except as an overall component of inside PPH; if inside PPH is being made, but you're missing preload PPH, nobody gives a

I get we have to make money, but that's just stupid. We're forcing more work on less guys and expect everything to be the same. Nobody accounts for the inevitable misload cost involved. And before you tell me we need to run a shorter preload explain to me what we do when DAILY the air trailer is late.

Oh wait, You're going to tell me to put more premium service providers on road to make service on NDA and push the start time back. Then you guys come back and tell me our SPC aren't high enough because we've shortened our work day and we need to cut more routes. It's endless.

your planner must be truly terrible, i'm sorry, i'd never advocate a shorter span, or put more PSP's on the road (that's actually heresy in IE)

In OPS management we don't have the same days everyday. The only constant is you fixed one metric you screwed up on yesterday in favor of another one. In IE's eyes everything is on time everyday, variables never change, and the only reason we don't make our numbers is because we don't want to. I roll in the door at 530 everyday and roll out between 6PM and 7PM. Go ahead and tell me I don't attempt to activate my brain.

I won't comment on the rest of your sperg, but have you ever thought about training an OMS to do your job?

there isn't much reason for you to be there past 3-4pm, as long as you're on call for an accident

 

[km3]

I can accept that criticism, but I worked hard to be in the thick of the operation every chance I got. I already knew the damned theory.

But most of the IE / employee arguments sum to this:

IE - it should be this way - it's been measured to be the least amount of work.

Employee - well, my building can't / doesn't try to execute it, so IE is WRONG!

It's kinda like we say, "hey - there's a concrete path over the water you can take to stay dry." And the reply is "Well, that guy swimming in the water looks WET to me, genius! So much for all your IE theory!"

I just want to say that wasn't meant to be a personal criticism by any means. Like I said, it sure seems like you guys mean well.

But I would like to know what you guys mean by management not trying to implement the "plan." I see supervisors tripping over themselves (usually while performing union work) trying to stay under their allotted man-hours. I've been told that staffing is just one of the things IE "plans."

I'm not trying to point fingers here. Please help me understand the big picture of what IE's purpose is in a typical day-to-day operation.

 

[MyTripisCut]

I won't comment on the rest of your sperg, but have you ever thought about training an OMS to do your job?

there isn't much reason for you to be there past 3-4pm, as long as you're on call for an accident

Now your just hilarious.

 

[TearsInRain]

But I would like to know what you guys mean by management not trying to implement the "plan." I see supervisors tripping over themselves (usually while performing union work) trying to stay under their allotted man-hours. I've been told that staffing is just one of the things IE "plans."

that's the hourly mentality i was talking about; it doesn't take long hours and gruntwork to meet IE goals, it takes thought, planning and a basic understanding of algebra

staffing is a big IE function, but it's based on demonstrated need

most of the times an op says they "need" more staffing, it's really because they're very badly managing the staffing they currently have

Now your just hilarious.

other than responding to an accident, or riding with a driver, why does your average FT on-road need to be physically present in the center after 4pm?

i'm all ears

 

[bumped]

IE goals are based on your demonstrated ability, so they're definitely attainable

This is why I get hammered on snow days. I demonstrated I could do the stops in 10 hours when its 70 degrees and sunny, so here is the same amount of stops in 6 inches of snow. I demonstrated the ability to do it. Adjust for changing conditions my

 

[wayfair]

other than responding to an accident, or riding with a driver, why does your average FT on-road need to be physically present in the center after 4pm?

i'm all ears

to run misloads.... duh

 

[Brownslave688]

to run misloads.... duh

Actually one on car being there until the last driver gets in is great incentive not to let one guy just rot til 9 pm when everyone else is done before 7.

 

[Nothing by 1030 anymore]

I just want to say that wasn't meant to be a personal criticism by any means. Like I said, it sure seems like you guys mean well.

But I would like to know what you guys mean by management not trying to implement the "plan." I see supervisors tripping over themselves (usually while performing union work) trying to stay under their allotted man-hours. I've been told that staffing is just one of the things IE "plans."

I'm not trying to point fingers here. Please help me understand the big picture of what IE's purpose is in a typical day-to-day operation.[/

 

[Poop Head]

it doesn't take long hours and gruntwork to meet IE goals

Since when do these packages sort, load, and deliver themselves?

most of the times an op says they "need" more staffing, it's really because they're very badly managing the staffing they currently have

Snowflakes..

 

[km3]

most of the times an op says they "need" more staffing, it's really because they're very badly managing the staffing they currently have

If things aren't going as planned, then they're being mismanaged?

 

[watdaflock?]

A bunch of pre madonnas anyway...

primadonna

 

[TearsInRain]

Since when do these packages sort, load, and deliver themselves

that's hourly work

If things aren't going as planned, then they're being mismanaged?

for inside employees, we don't even get involved, the ops have a blank check to hire as many as HR can drag in

drivers have to go through a requisition that's takes into account all the possible shortage factors, and PKG plans, and then we tend to hire somewhere between the max and average need

 

[Catatonic]

Screw the drivers... A bunch of pre madonnas anyway...

Pre madonnas - Grace Slick, Stevie Nicks, etc.

 

[wide load]

loaded air decreases AM time and reduces service failures (late)

drivers and most on road management refuse to believe it, but there are hard statistics and they don't lie

the fact is there are more late airs than there are missing, so triple handling them is just a complete waste of time

How does the Preloader get the air to the 1000 section when they can't walk through the truck?

 

[wide load]

this is not at all what IE does, FYI

if you have high AM time it's 100% the fault of your ops management

there are a million ways they can reduce it for you:

• staggered start times
• balancing dispatch properly between routes
• balancing work between shelves on a car
• having a good lineup to make the preload successful
• following up on poor load quality

the list could go on; i can't tell you how many times i've gone into a building and found none of those things were being done, tried to get them on board with a few, and got told essentially that it's too much work and they'd rather you just go out and have a sucky day

in fact, i'm probably the only person at UPS, other than safety i suppose, that wants you to have a smooth and stress free day

That all sounds great to ops that care.

 

[wide load]

IE goals are based on your demonstrated ability, so they're definitely attainable

So why is every mall route 4+ hours paid over?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

How does the Preloader get the air to the 1000 section when they can't walk through the truck?

Mine walks around and puts it on my seat.

 

[TearsInRain]

How does the Preloader get the air to the 1000 section when they can't walk through the truck?

you'd have to tote them, but that's not the first option

So why is every mall route 4+ hours paid over?

because On Road Work Measurement is understaffed and overworked

basically they need old-school time studies done on them, there is nobody available to do so, and the company is generally okay with just leaving it as is; a center's Business Plan reflects their actual performances, so if they're constantly over because of a mall, it will give allowance for that

 

[wide load]

Mine walks around and puts it on my seat.

1) you must have room on either side of your truck.
2) I didn't know your seat was the 1000 section.