Catatonic
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There is a difference in the government giving one money and not extorting that money from one.
If you have a $100 and a robber does not rob you of that money, that does not mean the robber gave you $100.
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If you have a $100 and a robber does not rob you of that money, that does not mean the robber gave you $100.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
# 6
Still bugs me .
Why was Sen Ted Kennedy ( D ) allowed to probate his mother's estate in Florida and not Massachusetts ?
The last nine years of her life she never left Massachusetts .
# 2
SOS Kerry uses this loop hole .
He paid for the boat with his second wife's dead husband's trust fund .
# 3
In Florida , a sale tax must be paid on rental income .
wkmac
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Some of us hold to a much broader definition of "entitled, welfare sucking American" than is typical but I think most people dislike someone who makes it a career and as opposed to someone who is just having some unexpected or untimely misfortune in their life.
And I do agree that "great jobs" are just not out there which IMO has a greater impact on forcing down wages as opposed to there not being enough union members or what have you. It's a purely buyers market of labor right now as opposed to a sellers labor market.
It also doesn't help that going into business for one's self or creating a new business has become so costly as a result of the regulatory state who more often than not IMO is acting on behalf of established businesses as a firewall to prevent up and coming competition that would threaten the existing cartel or monopoly.
UPS for example doesn't cry about increasing safety regulations because it knows this just increases the startup burden to anyone thinking of entering the same market as a competitor. Actually UPS likely does cry but it's, "please Brer Fox, please don't throw me into the briar patch" but the irony is that Brer Fox is on the take and gets a cut of the action from the old trickster Brer Rabbit.
All the while the rest of us beat on the political and social tar baby (red herring if you will) and get nothing but dirty and sticky as a result.
And I do agree that "great jobs" are just not out there which IMO has a greater impact on forcing down wages as opposed to there not being enough union members or what have you. It's a purely buyers market of labor right now as opposed to a sellers labor market.
It also doesn't help that going into business for one's self or creating a new business has become so costly as a result of the regulatory state who more often than not IMO is acting on behalf of established businesses as a firewall to prevent up and coming competition that would threaten the existing cartel or monopoly.
UPS for example doesn't cry about increasing safety regulations because it knows this just increases the startup burden to anyone thinking of entering the same market as a competitor. Actually UPS likely does cry but it's, "please Brer Fox, please don't throw me into the briar patch" but the irony is that Brer Fox is on the take and gets a cut of the action from the old trickster Brer Rabbit.
All the while the rest of us beat on the political and social tar baby (red herring if you will) and get nothing but dirty and sticky as a result.
wkmac
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The irony is that the money itself is not created by the gov't but created by a corporation granted the monopoly privilege to do so. Read the publication from the Chicago Federal Reserve entitled "Modern Money Mechanics" as they leave no doubt. Further re-enforced by the NY Federal Reserve's publication, "I Bet You Thought", a very telling title I might add.
wkmac
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Catatonic
Nine Lives
Hopefully the pendulum of the Repubs will swing back towards the blue collar worker albeit at the expense of the taxpayers .
I don't have a yacht, I don't write off business meals, OR a second home.
That being said, I LOVE what it classifies as a yacht. "If it has sleeping quarters, a kitchen and a toilet" um, lots of boats have those, yet I'd hardly call them yachts.
These are deductions that are available to the super wealthy (Republicans and Democrats alike).
The Tax deductions that these guys take advantage up are HARDLY comparable to the MILLIONS wasted annually to support losers who are afraid of working, yet drive nicer cars than I do and go out to eat several times a week.
Sportello
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Corporate welfare costs twice what social welfare does.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Careful!
A positive ROI for a $20k job may quickly turn negative at $30k, and even more so as it reaches $80k.
Sportello
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If your business model relies on paying your employees $10/hr, perhaps one should rethink their role as a 'job creator'.
Sportello
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photog, you can disagree, but that doesn't make you correct:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Cor...ce+what+social+welfare+does&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Tax breaks taken advantage of by both parties and you compare that to social scamming...I mean welfare? Lmao
wkmac
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Add in the hidden costs and it's far higher than that IMO.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
As long as I can disagree, I am happy!
Tax breaks and welfare are two completely different things. I get tax breaks, is that a form of social welfare?
Blame the tax system, not the player. Don't like it? Reform the whole damn system. If not, then stop crying
Sportello
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You are changing my words to fit your illogical point of view. Corporate welfare isn't necessarily taking advantage of tax code (the tax code written by them, btw). Try thinking of subsidies. I'm assuming you are a free market sort of guy, correct? Why should the government subsidize the Fortune 500?
wkmac
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A tax break is not theft if it can be shown the resulting cost burden of gov't is not transferred upon others to pay while said tax break creates a privilege of cost protection. A true tax break would be for example a 10% tax break equaled by a 10% reduction in gov't performance/service on behalf of said taxpayer.
Oh, aren't you the guy who posted the link to the Washington Post article about " The rich getting government handouts"? Numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 , 9, and 10 ALL relate directly to tax deductions/loopholes. It appears I haven't changed any of your words, but read "evidence" that YOU posted for us to "learn from" and am presenting it back to you.
