542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
It's actually kind of fun being on his ignore list. I can say anything I want to him and not have to put up with those ramblings.
msbusterbrown
Buster: a person that stops or prevents something
First, it is not off subject and I can deny it's relavence, since a payroll error is not relavent to override no strike/no lockout language. There is clear and distinct language regarding payroll errors. If the company said, "you, this is what we're paying you..." and it didn't meet contractual or legal obligations, that would be relavent. This is not what happened.
Second, don't come in here waving your
Ok ok lol I know what it says. I guess on here we are assuming that we all know the contract by heart, my apologies for pointing out what you already know and me wanting you to show me exactly what you’re referencing. Off on the wrong foot. Back to the issue written, I’m in disagreement that the posters issue is simply a payroll error.
It sounds like they are heading towards what they believe to be a strike offense, their union must know between the national and local what they are facing and their course of action.
Also, I wholeheartedly believe that the part-timers are seeing an unjust pay reduction.
542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
Did you local file the grievance? Do you know when it will be presented in Nationals?
Back to the issue written, I’m in disagreement that the posters issue is simply a payroll error.
It sounds like they are heading towards what they believe to be a strike offense, their union must know between the national and local what they are facing and their course of action.
Also, I wholeheartedly believe that the part-timers are seeing an unjust pay reduction.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
If the company admits that the pay should be brought up to minimum wage as the law suggests, and they deliver back pay with any applicable penalties (if any apply), then the issue is resolved. Essentially, it amounts to a payroll error.
Back to the issue written, I’m in disagreement that the posters issue is simply a payroll error.
It sounds like they are heading towards what they believe to be a strike offense, their union must know between the national and local what they are facing and their course of action.
Also, I wholeheartedly believe that the part-timers are seeing an unjust pay reduction.
Regardless of feelings, the company is in no way obligated to keep the MRA in place. I think PTers are underpaid too, but I also see their apathy overall and have a hard time standing up for someone who refuses to stand up for themselves.
I like your spunk, you should get involved with your local PTers and try to light their fire and get them as interested as you are. Maybe you can make a difference, it always starts with one.
msbusterbrown
Buster: a person that stops or prevents something
Yes.No.
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
Nah @SaladTosser got him beat
542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
Well I'm not a expert but I believe the grievance will have to be heard at nationals first which I believe meets 4 times a year and the company has a right to postpone it once. Then depending on the outcome could be sent to arbitration.
So it could be years like the PVD grievance.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
msbusterbrown
Buster: a person that stops or prevents something
I disagree. I do think Article 22 S 5 (e) guards the MRA from being taken away.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
You might be right, and I hope you are, I just don't understand it that way. I'm very interested to see how this grievance plays out. But, as @542thruNthru said, it could be a long wait.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
It's not worth all the rest of the
your government makes you live with.
PreTrippin’
Getting drunk and falling down
I’ve heard the guys from local 533 are taking it pretty serious. I’m with you I hope they get something done. Part time jobs need to be changed.
msbusterbrown
Buster: a person that stops or prevents something
Well, if you’re inclined, help me. Why don’t you understand it that way?
@Bubblehead, you too, why do you disagree?
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
I don't understand it that way either.
That is not what Article 22.5(e) says.
Ultimately I think pulling back the various MRA's like they did sucks and is an extra big slap in the face to these part-time employees immediately following the extra effort they put forth during Peak Season.
....and complete
in light of the recent 4th quarter earnings report and the 49% raise in dividends given to the stock holders.It is not a contractual violation or against the law.
msbusterbrown
Buster: a person that stops or prevents something
What is your understanding of (e)?I don't understand it that way either.
That is not what Article 22.5(e) says.
Ultimately I think pulling back the various MRA's like they did sucks and is an extra big slap in the face to these part-time employees immediately following the extra effort they put forth during Peak Season.
....and complete
It is not a contractual violation or against the law.
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
Article 22
Sections 5. Wages
(e) Seniority part-time employees who are receiving an hourly rate higher than set forth above in Section (b), as a result of a Market Rate Adjustment, shall not have their hourly rate reduced due to the implementation of this Article.
In the previous contract there was no Article 22.5(e), so when it was implemented (on April 29, 2019) anybody making more then due to a MRA will not have their hourly rate reduced.
It was a one time scenario that was addressed in this subsection, not a caveat that would apply to all future MRA's.
msbusterbrown
Buster: a person that stops or prevents something
‘Due to the implementation’
Ah yes, but it doesn’t mention time for example ‘at the time of implementation’ or look back to (a) where it adds/specifies time “All part-time employees who have attained seniority as of August 1, 2018..”
In addition it mentions schedule (b) in (e) which means it’s including all the “(b) newly hired part-time employees” so all seniority part-time employees whether you fall under (a) or (b)
What do you think?
rod
Retired 22 years
When the dust settles about the only thing you will get is maybe the right to wear dresses.
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Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
I already told you what I think?
....you just don't want to hear it and I can understand that.
