New bonus of $110 from $75 for local 705.

[wilberforce15]

Lol but we don’t lose all our free time, maybe for a while we do until we get seniority I’ve done quite well for myself. I never wanted to be rich so I don’t care about that just wanted to be comfortable and I am very comfortable. Nothing wrong with Hardwork most people are afraid of it nowadays.

You do lose all your free time, especially compared to having 52 weeks of vacation per year, which they all currently have.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Who said I keep it all to myself? Who said I don't help them out?

As a long-term PTer with my own goals, I'm the guy pointing out to all of them the possibilities that exist when you start young at UPS.

They almost always quit anyway.

Well you seem a little abrasive but I don’t know you personally, if you can help people hopefully you are and yes you’re right many times they don’t listen but if you just get through to a few of them you did your job.

 

[Thebrownblob]

You do lose all your free time, especially compared to having 52 weeks of vacation per year, which they all currently have.

LOL 52 weeks of vacation in the hood is not a vacation.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

You do lose all your free time, especially compared to having 52 weeks of vacation per year, which they all currently have.

Not everyone wants to live at home forever in Mama's basement

 

[wilberforce15]

It'll take it because they don't want to work
Would you like to please try again?

Try what again? I'm explaining to you why poor people don't want this job.

 

[wilberforce15]

Not everyone wants to live at home forever in Mama's basement

But most poor people do.

 

[wilberforce15]

LOL 52 weeks of vacation in the hood is not a vacation.

It is to a hoodrat.

 

[Thebrownblob]

You do lose all your free time, especially compared to having 52 weeks of vacation per year, which they all currently have.

Some of these guys would be better off working remember idle hands are the devils workshop.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

But most poor people do.

If that's his case you can blame the parents

 

[Thebrownblob]

It is to a hoodrat.

But you see I don’t see people that way, I believe most people want to be productive and contribute even if they don’t even realize that’s what they want.

 

[wilberforce15]

Some of these guys would be better off working remember idle hands are the devils workshop.

Totally true.
But it doesn't make the job worth it for them.
UPS doesn't provide them anything that they don't already have, except some more video game money.

 

[Thebrownblob]

If that's his case you can blame the parents

Yes poverty is a cycle and a mindset that’s difficult to break.

 

[wilberforce15]

If that's his case you can blame the parents

I do.
And yet it's still a fact that's nearly universal, and why you're never going to have retention among poor employees.

 

[wilberforce15]

But you see I don’t see people that way, I believe most people want to be productive and contribute even if they don’t even realize that’s what they want.

Your belief is simply not true, then. Most poor people don't want that.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Totally true.
But it doesn't make the job worth it for them.
UPS doesn't provide them anything that they don't already have, except some more video game money.

Well I just don’t think we’re going to agree completely. I realize there’s some people like that but most of us have a desire and yearning to do something more. Its not exactly all about money either.

 

[wilberforce15]

Well I just don’t think we’re going to agree completely. I realize there’s some people like that but most of us have a desire and yearning to do something more. I’m not exactly all about money either.

We would agree if you'd go spend a decade or two embedded in their world.

 

[Thebrownblob]

We would agree if you'd go spend a decade or two embedded in their world.

I did

 

[Thebrownblob]

The turning point in my life was when one of my aunts was built a house by Habitat for Humanity brand-new. They gave it to her for free. In my mind I thought what a great gift she’ll cherish it forever. But to her it meant nothing. The place was condemned less than six years later. I realize then nothing that’s given to you you care about near as much as something you work for and earned.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I do.
And yet it's still a fact that's nearly universal, and why you're never going to have retention among poor employees.

Well guess what buddy?
I busted my ass so I can put my kids through college and never have a better life than me.

That's called being a parent

 

[wilberforce15]

Well guess what buddy?
I busted my ass so I can put my kids through college and never have a better life than me.

That's called being a parent

Good for you. I'm not sure why you feel the need to mention it.