Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by ECV0709, Nov 13, 2019.

  1. Poop Head

    Poop Head Lovin' every minute of it!

    Tell them to just put back rdo, and go play with the drones!
  2. Utility81

    Utility81 Member

    They haven’t been tracking that this month? I understand. Our flavor of the month is overriding AP’s. Got chewed out for overriding one for an old lady. So now until I retire, I don’t care if you literally don’t have legs, it’s getting sent to the AP.
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  3. 35years

    35years Well-Known Member

    Several times, especially before the contract.

    Once called out, they usually disappeared.

    Here is the whole thing....Long term drivers can tell when they are being patronized. Plenty of experience with that game at work.

    So sinscere or not, you are not the a-holes I deal with on a daily basis at the office so any manager on Brown Cafe will not change the culture at our real centers.
  4. Foamer Pyle

    Foamer Pyle Active Member

    For me, usually after lunch, i can sort my entire car, stop for stop, in about 10 minutes. It’s tough for a rookie to be able to do that, with limited area knowledge.
  5. 35years

    35years Well-Known Member

    Pal order, no experience needed
  6. dysphunktion

    dysphunktion A decent sup

    It was getting bad, lol. Half the routes were turning orion off in huge 100+ route centers. Or some of the more clever ones thought they could fool it, which turned serious pretty quick.
    They just see it as no one using their shiny, expensive new toy, Orion.

    Yeah man, be careful with that stuff. Met cust. on route! Orrr, if it's for the sweetest of old ladies, take it to the AP, have them sign it out as if she picked it up and break some trace and take it to her? I mean, if it's something you are comfortable doing and wouldn't get you into :censored2: tons of trouble.
    Sort is being pushed hard and under 8's/over 9.5s is pretty big too. They are also REALLY starting to push "the respect zone". Coming in between 9.5 and 9.7. I had to have my center managers have PCM's with drivers coming in at those times. And it was lame, so they just basically asked them if they could find a way to save a minute here, 30 seconds there to get those 12ish minutes down under 9.5

    I want to say that once peak starts they will ease up on the over 9.5s's PEAK. BUT, they aren't. If they let everyone have that sweet OT, then to them it means all those PVDs and helpers aren't working. So just some things to be aware of.
  7. Bluefootedoobie

    Bluefootedoobie Damage Inc.

    The diad, treat it like a old NES nintendo cartridge; blow on it, exhale...
  8. dysphunktion

    dysphunktion A decent sup

    I hear you. I'm not trying to change hearts and minds. I was just struck by how us managers are uhm, guy assumed my gender...can you imagine? PFFT!
    ...I had a hard time not just chalking it up to exaggerating stuff. But it seems for the most part, most of you have had some really :censored2:ty experiences with us. And not just that one :censored2:ty ORS, but most.
    And from my experience with (Not many compared to UPS in US) different centers didn't jive. And, not sure if I said this, I know that my short time at centers isn't going to give me valuable incite into
    how things -really- are there. Of course a driver will smile, shake a hand, etc.

    I know I can't change :censored2: for most of you. Or any of you. I'll help out when/where I can. But for what it's worth, there are sups out there that look out for the drivers. And legit look out for them. Not bring them breakfast and
    hook them up with a sweet route a couple times then :censored2: them later. Shrug. :\
  9. Whither

    Whither Scofflaw

    Bingo. As a cover driver I shake my head when I see bid drivers in the dispatcher's office trying to 'fix' their routes. We already have more than enough work.
  10. 35years

    35years Well-Known Member

    I am aware how that went down.

    Still there is a different way to fool it....

    Management has not caught on to the alternative way.

    I dont use it much, ORION pays more!
  11. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

  12. Learn to quote

    Is this amateur hour?
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  13. dysphunktion

    dysphunktion A decent sup

    It's like...the anticipation is brutal! What was he going to say!?!? :censored2:, was he going to want that hug I keep bringing up? Maybe more than friends? :censored2:!
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  15. dysphunktion

    dysphunktion A decent sup

    I haven't heard anything about that. Just be careful. :censored2: like that brings out the infamous "integrity issue".
  16. dysphunktion

    dysphunktion A decent sup

    You must not be up on the latest. I took Gender Studies at the local community, I'm kinda a big deal.
    I can be the redheaded bimbo with the bewbs and use the mens bathroom too. I'm fluid!

    *bangs head*
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  18. upsgrunt

    upsgrunt Well-Known Member

    dys- I've been around a few years, and the things I don't get regarding ORION:
    1. Why take away RDO, which we need, and give us something we don't want, ODO, at a cost that was not necessary, from a company that hates to spend money, and can't get the uniforms we need, because they failed to compensate the vendor switch. All this to aggravate the employees that do the work and make the numbers that fuel the machine? It takes longer to find the stop I need to deliver and carrot, than it takes to actually deliver the stop. In what world does this ever makes sense?
    2. What major company thinks it's ok to increase their bottom line by stealing from their employees and claiming ignorance when we can see that time is clearly being stolen from us, a cardinal sin for us, but SOP for the company?
    3. Why is the driver workforce being intentionally driven down in numbers, but the supervisors needed for the reduced drivers needed increased?
    4. Like anything at UPS, if we all acted like we loved ORION, would they take it away just to spite us just like they shove the things we complain about down our throat?
  19. 35years

    35years Well-Known Member

    Because as inefficient and costly as Orion is.... It is integral to the goal of making driver knowledge and experience obsolete.
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  20. Whither

    Whither Scofflaw

    But wait: doesn't a good, e.g, 'optimized', route get us more stops?