Poop Head
Judge me.
Tell them to just put back rdo, and go play with the drones!
NEW DRIVER- DAY 20- NEED ADVICE
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Utility81
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They haven’t been tracking that this month? I understand. Our flavor of the month is overriding AP’s. Got chewed out for overriding one for an old lady. So now until I retire, I don’t care if you literally don’t have legs, it’s getting sent to the AP.Well, the lowest supervisor in UPS is a PTPDS, if I recall correctly. And they have the ability to fix nav issues. It's really not that hard. But for the last few months, they haven't really been tracking that aspect, so it goes ignored.
Centers with literally thousands of "bad snaps" can absolutely destroy a route. A single bad snap can take your 67 mile route downtown to a three hundred mile adventure to the next county. And yes, a driver saidit, they tell me to follow trace, lets follow trace. It was...hilarious. He got the usual "We pay you good money to make smart decisions" but what could they do...lol.
35years
Gravy route
Several times, especially before the contract.
I haven't once advocated that anyone works with us. If what you guys say is true, I'd stay the
I'm just a decent dude with respect for the drivers I supervise. I'm still all about them numbers, don't get it twisted! But the drivers get it done.
Hey, want some of his kool-aid?
::Edit::
"once again"?
So has that actually happened or is this some urban legend
Once called out, they usually disappeared.
Here is the whole thing....Long term drivers can tell when they are being patronized. Plenty of experience with that game at work.
So sinscere or not, you are not the a-holes I deal with on a daily basis at the office so any manager on Brown Cafe will not change the culture at our real centers.
Foamer Pyle
Well-Known Member
For me, usually after lunch, i can sort my entire car, stop for stop, in about 10 minutes. It’s tough for a rookie to be able to do that, with limited area knowledge.
35years
Gravy route
Pal order, no experience needed
dysphunktion
A decent sup
It was getting bad, lol. Half the routes were turning orion off in huge 100+ route centers. Or some of the more clever ones thought they could fool it, which turned serious pretty quick.
They just see it as no one using their shiny, expensive new toy, Orion.
Yeah man, be careful with that stuff. Met cust. on route! Orrr, if it's for the sweetest of old ladies, take it to the AP, have them sign it out as if she picked it up and break some trace and take it to her? I mean, if it's something you are comfortable doing and wouldn't get you into
tons of trouble.Sort is being pushed hard and under 8's/over 9.5s is pretty big too. They are also REALLY starting to push "the respect zone". Coming in between 9.5 and 9.7. I had to have my center managers have PCM's with drivers coming in at those times. And it was lame, so they just basically asked them if they could find a way to save a minute here, 30 seconds there to get those 12ish minutes down under 9.5
I want to say that once peak starts they will ease up on the over 9.5s because...it's PEAK. BUT, they aren't. If they let everyone have that sweet OT, then to them it means all those PVDs and helpers aren't working. So just some things to be aware of.
Bluefootedoobie
Damage Inc.
The diad, treat it like a old NES nintendo cartridge; blow on it, exhale...
dysphunktion
A decent sup
I hear you. I'm not trying to change hearts and minds. I was just struck by how us managers are uhm, well...one guy assumed my gender...can you imagine? PFFT!
...I had a hard time not just chalking it up to exaggerating stuff. But it seems for the most part, most of you have had some really
ty experiences with us. And not just that one ty ORS, but most.And from my experience with (Not many compared to UPS in US) different centers didn't jive. And, not sure if I said this, I know that my short time at centers isn't going to give me valuable incite into
how things -really- are there. Of course a driver will smile, shake a hand, etc.
I know I can't change
for most of you. Or any of you. I'll help out when/where I can. But for what it's worth, there are sups out there that look out for the drivers. And legit look out for them. Not bring them breakfast andhook them up with a sweet route a couple times then
them later. Shrug. :\
Whither
Scofflaw
Oh I hear ya, trust me. I don't want to say all that much but it's a slippery slope when it comes to having a super optimized Orion route. Or I should say, going from a route that has a
Bingo. As a cover driver I shake my head when I see bid drivers in the dispatcher's office trying to 'fix' their routes. We already have more than enough work.
35years
Gravy route
I am aware how that went down.
Still there is a different way to fool it....
Management has not caught on to the alternative way.
I dont use it much, ORION pays more!
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
It was getting bad, lol. Half the routes were turning orion off in huge 100+ route centers. Or some of the more clever ones thought they could fool it, which turned serious pretty quick.
They just see it as no one using their shiny, expensive new toy, Orion.
Yeah man, be careful with that stuff. Met cust. on route! Orrr, if it's for the sweetest of old ladies, take it to the AP, have them sign it out as if she picked it up and break some trace and take it to her? I mean, if it's something you are comfortable doing and wouldn't get you into
Sort is being pushed hard and under 8's/over 9.5s is pretty big too. They are also REALLY starting to push "the respect zone". Coming in between 9.5 and 9.7. I had to have my center managers have PCM's with drivers coming in at those times. And it was lame, so they just basically asked them if they could find a way to save a minute here, 30 seconds there to get those 12ish minutes down under 9.5
I want to say that once peak starts they will ease up on the over 9.5s because...it's PEAK. BUT, they aren't. If they let everyone have that sweet OT, then to them it means all those PVDs and helpers aren't working. So just some things to be aware of.
dysphunktion
A decent sup
It's like...the anticipation is brutal! What was he going to say!?!?
, was he going to want that hug I keep bringing up? Maybe more than friends? !Free beer is better. Unless you are a redhead with big boobiesIt's like...the anticipation is brutal! What was he going to say!?!?
dysphunktion
A decent sup
I haven't heard anything about that. Just be careful.
like that brings out the infamous "integrity issue".dysphunktion
A decent sup
You must not be up on the latest. I took Gender Studies at the local community college...so, I'm kinda a big deal.
I can be the redheaded bimbo with the bewbs and use the mens bathroom too. I'm fluid!
*bangs head*
upsgrunt
Well-Known Member
dys- I've been around a few years, and the things I don't get regarding ORION:
1. Why take away RDO, which we need, and give us something we don't want, ODO, at a cost that was not necessary, from a company that hates to spend money, and can't get the uniforms we need, because they failed to compensate the vendor switch. All this to aggravate the employees that do the work and make the numbers that fuel the machine? It takes longer to find the stop I need to deliver and carrot, than it takes to actually deliver the stop. In what world does this ever makes sense?
2. What major company thinks it's ok to increase their bottom line by stealing from their employees and claiming ignorance when we can see that time is clearly being stolen from us, a cardinal sin for us, but SOP for the company?
3. Why is the driver workforce being intentionally driven down in numbers, but the supervisors needed for the reduced drivers needed increased?
4. Like anything at UPS, if we all acted like we loved ORION, would they take it away just to spite us just like they shove the things we complain about down our throat?
1. Why take away RDO, which we need, and give us something we don't want, ODO, at a cost that was not necessary, from a company that hates to spend money, and can't get the uniforms we need, because they failed to compensate the vendor switch. All this to aggravate the employees that do the work and make the numbers that fuel the machine? It takes longer to find the stop I need to deliver and carrot, than it takes to actually deliver the stop. In what world does this ever makes sense?
2. What major company thinks it's ok to increase their bottom line by stealing from their employees and claiming ignorance when we can see that time is clearly being stolen from us, a cardinal sin for us, but SOP for the company?
3. Why is the driver workforce being intentionally driven down in numbers, but the supervisors needed for the reduced drivers needed increased?
4. Like anything at UPS, if we all acted like we loved ORION, would they take it away just to spite us just like they shove the things we complain about down our throat?
Whither
Scofflaw
But wait: doesn't a good, e.g, 'optimized', route get us more stops?
