ORION discipline
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Exactly it's all about UPS upper management feeling like they are in control. It's the same reason they have a supervisor train new drivers on routes when it would make A BILLION times more sense to have the new driver ride with an experienced driver for a week. The experienced driver knows how the route is loaded, the general flow of the route, special stops, where people want their
left....but no that would be out of managements control...Was just talking about this today with my shop steward. What ever higher up executive person that approved this is trying to keep from looking like a total fool by shoving it down everyones throats and putting out press releases (and radio ads on NPR apparently) about how UPS is cutting emissions.
After reading advice on here, and from you and others.......I got over the neck jerk where I am driving by a stop, that I want to deliver but its getting me there three hours later. My life is so much improved (work life). I am 90% or better, and 16 miles over. Today only 9 over but I bet 95%. They got on me about it, and it was because I just think too much. I offered to be 100%, if you would like me to miss commercial that was suppose to be fixed and now the Orion team is gone. And I am driving a truck with 400k, smokes like a steam engine, Only diesel, and it goes 0-35, in like 3.5 hours. Finally my truck which has been in the shop for 2.5 months was back in my spot today. It had a rear door that UPS did not have the money to fix, suddenly it is fixed.
I remember the olden days when customers mattered.
And to top it off I am on the 9.5 list, and I have been using my 2 8 hr requests per month diligently, and the last two, always on Friday. Always 70 + air for two businesses.
We have had one driver fired, we think for retaliation for 9.5 grievances, but I dont know the whole story yet.There are always two sides to a story.
Every Wednesday, I get asked, can you get in under 9.5? Because I already had two I might be 9.49, but I am under. Which is all I really wanted. And I told them I never had a problem with 730, I have a problem with 9pm.
The days of cutting routes and throwing the crap on me is over. At least 3 days a week.
So our contract language has seemed to work for me, but mostly the advice of a few of my dear friends on here, and growing a set where one was never meant to grow.
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728ups
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fantastic!!!!!keep on keeping on and it will just get better
Bubblehead
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You do realize that you are not limited to only 2 eight hour requests a month?
By The Book
Well-Known Member
Now there's someone who reads all the lines.
No I did not, how many can I get. I need a rule book. See more info I didnt know!
Bubblehead
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You are in the Central Region, yes?
Yes I am, North Ohio
Bubblehead
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Sorry Tooner, I fell asleep in the recliner (again) before we could finish our conversation last night.
The Central Region Supplement contains differing language on 8 hour requests that supersedes the language in the National Master.
This language is contained in Article 19 Section 3 and has been grieved numerous times for interpretation, dating back to 1979.
In a Letter of Interpretation dated May of 1980, it was determined that:
In the absence of extenuating circumstances, an employee who exercises this provision in excess of 3 times in a month shall be considered as abusing this provision.
As always, check with your steward and or business agent as to the viability of this language in regards to any local agreements or past practices.
grgrcr88
No It's not green grocer!
At my specific location, (Central Region), You get 3 8hr days. After you have used your 3, you can get more granted as long as it does not bump anyone. No where in the language does it set a limit on 8hr requests. The language Bubblehead quoted has been interpreted in JAC decisions to work as I have said above.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Don't forget the decision....
That allows you to bring back work.... to meet your "approved" 8-hr request.
In the Central....
You could get an 8-hr request everyday, if no one else is requesting them.
Once you have had your 3.... you can't exercise your seniority to bump someone.
The other misconception, is about drivers in the same "loop" having 8-hr request on the same day.
It can be done.... if the 10% minimum is not met.
-Bug-
Bubblehead
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Don't forget the decision....
That allows you to bring back work.... to meet your "approved" 8-hr request.
In the Central....
You could get an 8-hr request everyday, if no one else is requesting them.
Once you have had your 3.... you can't exercise your seniority to bump someone.
The other misconception, is about drivers in the same "loop" having 8-hr request on the same day.
It can be done.... if the 10% minimum is not met.
-Bug-
That's how I read it...and exercise it.
Every time I get a new management team in my center they get educated the hard way.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
God, I would love it if they would try that crap with me.
The comedic value alone would be priceless, plus all the easy overtime from sitting in meetings listening to them babble.
728ups
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ya'll need to learn how to make management AFRAID to issue such stupid discipline
and what do you propose?
728ups
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are you serious????
FILE FILE FILE
File for harassment,supervisors working ,8 hour requests being denied,ANYTHING you can think of
ya'll kill me sometimes
