Our Saturdays now belong to UPS
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705red
Browncafe Steward
The Tuesday through saturday language was changed in the 2002 contract. If your seniority date falls after 8/1/02 you can be asked to work these days. If your seniority falls before this your fine.
My understanding of that language was for a set schedule, I do not think they can abuse you and move you from M-friend to T-S and back to M-friend again.
They cannot offer this to other package car drivers with a 2002 and senior date because Sat is an automatic 6th day and OT pay even if they took Monday off.
My understanding of that language was for a set schedule, I do not think they can abuse you and move you from M-friend to T-S and back to M-friend again.
They cannot offer this to other package car drivers with a 2002 and senior date because Sat is an automatic 6th day and OT pay even if they took Monday off.
......followed by a ONE day weekend. That does suck.
That's how I took it.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
I am curious as to whether the affected employees would have been laid off on that Monday anyway and this is actually to their benefit.
grgrcr88
No It's not green grocer!
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
PAS'd out
This ain't rocket science
Here in New England it was changed in the 1987 supplement along with air drivers, another junk contract negotiated for us. Schedule is M-friend or Tu-Sat. for full-time employees hired after July 31, 1987. The schedule when changed shall be posted on Monday to be effective the following Monday.
So here, they can bounce you as much as they want. It just is not practical or needed to use full-time drivers on Saturdays except on rare days like this, after a big Friday snowstorm or when Christmas is on Sunday or Monday.
So here, they can bounce you as much as they want. It just is not practical or needed to use full-time drivers on Saturdays except on rare days like this, after a big Friday snowstorm or when Christmas is on Sunday or Monday.
Oh please.. If it is so bad then quit. I am sure it won't be hard to fill your shoes. Instead of crying you should be thanking UPS for giving you a job.
trplnkl
555
OH how I wish I had a dollar for eveytime I have heard that phrase. Specially when the truth of the matter is Sups cry as loud and as often as hourlys do.
AND, the reason they say that line is because they can't think of an actual reply that makes sense. ATTA BOY...keep up the good work. LOL
And I tell the sups the same thing when they cry. I treat everyone equally management and non management. I am done talking about this matter. Work the freaking Saturdays or find employment elsewhere...
dannyboy
From the promised LAND
get used to it as ups expands to other markets that we have not served yet. there will be things in the future that will demand 24/7/365. and in doing so, a workforce will be needed to complete that expansion.
you will also see in the future a split work week for some, where you have one day off during the week, and one day off on the weekend.
the only job i know of that ups gave to someone was yours. the rest of us earned our jobs. i know that is a foreign concept to you, but you must learn to open your mind to the truth.......
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you will also see in the future a split work week for some, where you have one day off during the week, and one day off on the weekend.
dearest socks
the only job i know of that ups gave to someone was yours. the rest of us earned our jobs. i know that is a foreign concept to you, but you must learn to open your mind to the truth.......
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Iruhnman, If you don't like your weekends interrupted, don't even consider feeder!!
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Fixed it. His reply was in the middle of the quote.
tieguy
Banned
Over my friend I'm dissapointed with your answer.
The seniority system is wonderful unless you're the guy on the bottom. Time for him to man up and take his punishment like a man. His union fought for a seniority over favoritism system and its his turn in the barrel.
OK, maybe with the sick time part...
But don't you agree that this should be grieved? That language was put there so Tues thru Sat jobs could be made. Now it seems to be being perverted to force people to work a Saturday at someones whim, and the next week back to Mon thru Fri.
Grieve it, and we'll all have an answer we'll have to live with.
tieguy
Banned
Anything is worth a try in the grievance game but I think an arbitrator will see the language is there and recognize that ups has the right to adjust someones schedule.
The guy got over a months notice of this one week change. Sounds like his management group really went out of their way to give him plenty of notice.
Personally I think his crying and whining makes all teamsters look bad. Teamsters love seniority unless they don't have any.
Let me add something else. The Union employees continue to want want want. When UPS goes out of their way to please our customers the first thing the union says is file, file, file. Saturday delivery is good for the company and the customer, in the end all employees will prosper. Management and Non Management. It's hard to make things work when union employees try to make everything more difficult than it already is on management. That is why some employees are treated badly and maybe even unfairly. The OP is a drama queen, he makes it sound like he is working every saturday for the rest of his life. We are only asking for one.
No, they're not. They didn't ask anyone. Perhaps if they had asked for volunteers, none of this grievance talk would have even happened.
Why does UPS do everything the hard way?
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