Yes, a lot of old guys started at double my starting rate, and the gap only broadened from there.
You’ll never lose an argument that part timers were better off in the 80s and 90s. That’s already a given.
Yes, a lot of old guys started at double my starting rate, and the gap only broadened from there.
When did you start?
And I don't need a mortgage. I paid my house off a while ago, because I haven't spent a single dime of any money I've ever earned at UPS in 12 years.
The point is that you got an awful lot more money than the people you're claiming are entitled.
No. It wasn't. I'm talking about their first day on the job.
A guy who started in 1985 got a higher hourly rate on his very first day than a guy who has been here a decade now.
The 1985 wage was about $20/hr if you adjust for inflation. It takes 10 years to get to that rate now.
I've worked 12 years to get barely over what used to get paid on the very first day of work.
I'll never lose an argument because it's so plainly true.
I have yet to see a 30 year guy recognize in plain words that he started at twice my rate. It makes all their whining about young guys null and void.
Faded jeans, I'm in better financial shape than every full timer I know. I've got six months in the bank and a paid off house with four young kids. I'm not whining about me. The hypocrisy and hazing form the old guys is just disgusting. They start new guys at half their first day's pay and then call them bums.
I didn't say I've never cashed a check from ups. I said I've never spent it. It paid off my house a long time ago and gave me six months in the bank while I live off of other work. I'm no stranger to long days.
8.50 in the 80s is 20.00 now and your stories don't change that. And what if I'm wrong by a mile and it's really 16? That's silly, because it is worth 20 now, but even then the old guys should have no criticism for new guys doing less work and whining when there is so much less pay.
it still means you can't taunt people for doing less work for half the pay oldies got.
Part timers put in HALF the contributions and hours for healthcare that I as a FTer do, BUT WE GET THE SAME PACKAGEHow much more is health care today? An awful lot more. That didn't keep full timers from keeping up with inflation.
And even if that accounts for the entire difference in part time pay rates, it still means part timers are receiving half of what others used to receive in cash. Maybe health care costs mean that's not the unions fault. That would be a fine argument. But it still means you can't taunt people for doing less work for half the pay oldies got.
They used to take care of the guy who just started. Thats my point.
Don't ever complain about part timers not joining, not filing, not staying, or whining about poverty, because you made that happen. The guys before you took care of your starting rate. What did you do for the guy after you?
when you're giving them 5-10 years in which they'll never reach your starting wage
Lol. Caps don't make your point better.
The increase in ft jobs was great. It also still means you can't say anything to guys who don't join, don't file, don't show up, or don't work, when you're giving them 5-10 years in which they'll never reach your starting wage
You just need to recognize that young guys are getting a fraction of what you did