El Correcto
god is dead
You need to invest your part time check wisely if you want to make ups your only job.
What’s up with the obsession over recognition by the older guys? I’m an elder Millenial and bring up the higher stop counts and doubled weight limit when the old timers talk about how wimpy kids these days are when they complain about the modern UPS workload. But it’s not like an overwhelming injustice that must be righted for me.
It is a PART TIME JOB.Since when do union jobs pay starvation wages and everyone is happy with it?
I love Bolivian Snow!You need to invest your part time check wisely if you want to make ups your only job.
I sincerely hope the pay is raised for the part timers. I truly do. But I have no control over what a dollar was worth then to now. Can't tell you how many times I heard Granpa say he used to buy 3 white castles for nickel. Damnit why can't I get that deal now? This younger workforce does have more warts than my generation. That's not to say they aren't worth more. You can't live off of this job as a part timer though. I think that is fairly obvious.
You realize that ups would most likely offer a signing bonus and a raise to current full timers to vote in a lower top rate for you guys. In trade for a higher starting wage. You can argue all you want. But that's how negotiation works. Current top rate full timers will not be affected. In fact there will probably be incentives to vote in a 2 tier wage. You guys will be shooting yourselves in the foot. We are trying to stop you from that. Stop looking short term. UNLESS ups willingly offers up and increased starting wage without concessions. But do you really think that's going to happen.
You realize that ups would most likely offer a signing bonus and a raise to current full timers to vote in a lower top rate for you guys. In trade for a higher starting wage. You can argue all you want. But that's how negotiation works. Current top rate full timers will not be affected. In fact there will probably be incentives to vote in a 2 tier wage. You guys will be shooting yourselves in the foot. We are trying to stop you from that. Stop looking short term. UNLESS ups willingly offers up and increased starting wage without concessions. But do you really think that's going to happen.
Unfortunately this job isn't good to start off as an adult unless you can be dependent on a spouse or parents to help you out until you can make the big bucks.Good info, thank you. I don't really consider myself to be only thinking short term though. Just trying to keep afloat and stay alive.
Many people start at UPS as adults with bills and responsibilities already. If I was starting as a teenager still living with my parents, it wouldn't matter.
Driver wages kept up with inflation. The only thing I'm asking is that part timers also keep up with inflation. I'm not asking for a "raise." I'm literally asking for the same thing the old timers already got on their first days.
If the cash portion of compensation kept up with inflation, it would be 20/hr to start right now. Even asking for $15/hr is a give back.
Unfortunately this job isn't good to start off as an adult unless you can be dependent on a spouse or parents to help you out until you can make the big bucks.
Hang in there it will come,we all started at the bottom one time or another.90k plus is nothing to pass on.Yeah, that would be nice. But I'm going for it unless I can think of something better.
I'm 33. I worked in agriculture for a decade and loved it. But I topped out at 13$ with no benefits, no retirement. Got tired of poverty and love union history. So here I am.
You ate still young and have time on your sideYeah, that would be nice. But I'm going for it unless I can think of something better.
I'm 33. I worked in agriculture for a decade and loved it. But I topped out at 13$ with no benefits, no retirement. Got tired of poverty and love union history. So here I am.
Only 90k? SlackerHang in there it will come,we all started at the bottom one time or another.90k plus is nothing to pass on.
I can’t stand hanging around that place any longer than I have too.
Well my first "real" job in 1994 and 16 years old, was a union job with the UFCW and I made (IIRC) $4.85/hr while the minimum wage was of the time was $4.25. It was better than not working, and the low pay wasn't much lower than UPS.Not looking for pity. Looking for solidarity .
It was better than not working, and the low pay wasn't much lower than UPS.
It is a PART TIME JOB.
Why is that so hard to understand.
PTers be like I want to buy a house pay me more money and give me a FT job.
Entitlement is rampant
You’re absolutely right. That is public property, no loitering move along part timer.Yes exactly. Us lowly warehouse people don't deserve to live under a bridge!
You ate still young and have time on your side
Do you wanna be a driver? That's where the money is at