Permanent layoffs question

[Johney]

Another asinine comment from him. We have well over 150 22.3 jobs here, the majority of them are daysort /Twilight hours. Not a bad gig if you want to work in the building.

Funny thing is since he’s a p/t car washer he’d be loading feeders on the night sort in my old building……the car wash hasn’t worked in 6 years

 

[Brownwind]

Except those 25+ year employees are doing small sort and clean in and around the hub for the rest of their time. Me and other 22.4's will be preload

I can work a broom with the best of them. It would be a good job for an exit strategy. If it was actually eight hours it would be even better. I have a feeling that it would turn into a ten to fourteen hour shift quickly

 

[Johney]

Except those 25+ year employees are doing small sort and clean in and around the hub for the rest of their time.

Nope

 

[Jkloc420]

Lay them all off

 

[Thebrownblob]

Except those 25+ year employees are doing small sort and clean in and around the hub for the rest of their time. Me and other 22.4's will be preload

Maybe it works that way where you are but we’re I am 22.3 as a required to work their bid positions. Matter fact Stewards make sure it happens. Because when it does not happen, the company threatens to eliminate the jobs and move them elsewhere as they are not needed if they are not doing their bid.

 

[UnionStrong]

Maybe it works that way where you are but we’re I am 22.3 as a required to work their bid positions. Matter fact Stewards make sure it happens. Because when it does not happen, the company threatens to eliminate the jobs and move them elsewhere as they are not needed if they are not doing their bid.

 

[hondo]

So what we need is to scrap the 22.4 language and get better layoff language in the supplements.

I put it as a proposal here and from what I heard it was shot down immediately.

Shot down by the company?

Yes. From my understanding it was said that if the company is laying off rpcds then the company is in trouble and isn't going to injure its self more by paying laid off drivers a higher wage than a position calls for. That's what I was told but it could have been denied by the union as well in pre screening for all I know.

Do you mean something like:
"7. Any full-time employee exercising his/her seniority rights to displace another employee under the provisions of this Section shall not suffer any reduction in the employee's rate of pay and benefits he/she enjoyed prior to the layoff."

 

[542thruNthru]

Do you mean something like:
"7. Any full-time employee exercising his/her seniority rights to displace another employee under the provisions of this Section shall not suffer any reduction in the employee's rate of pay and benefits he/she enjoyed prior to the layoff."

Yep, our rider doesn't have that.

 

[PT 4 Life]

The last new dozen Twi/Midnight 22.3 jobs were taken by PT with less than a years seniority. I told them in 4 years you will be making over $70k/yr doing the same job you were doing PT for minimum wage.

I find this hard to believe. I guess every hub is different..here you’re going to wait a long time for 22.3. 22.2? Forget about it.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I find this hard to believe. I guess every hub is different..here you’re going to wait a long time for 22.3. 22.2? Forget about it.

We only currently have two 22.2 jobs left in our building a certain they’re looking to get rid of those ASAP

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

We only currently have two 22.2 jobs left in our building a certain they’re looking to get rid of those ASAP

Aren't they grandfathered in?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Aren't they grandfathered in?

Yes, but every time someone retires from that job, the company tries to get rid of it we have Successfully managed to keep them this long.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Yes, but every time someone retires from that job, the company tries to get rid of it we have Successfully managed to keep them this long.

Can't give up the fight

 

[PT Car Washer]

We only currently have two 22.2 jobs left in our building a certain they’re looking to get rid of those ASAP

Our 22.2 jobs are red circled. Not the employees but the jobs themselves.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Our 22.2 jobs are red circled. Not the employees but the jobs themselves.

I’m pretty sure ours are as well, but the company is always trying to play games.

 

[Cowboy Mac]

I’m pretty sure ours are as well, but the company is always trying to play games.

Forgive my ignorance but what is the difference between 22.2 and 22.3 job? Is a 22.2 better in some way?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Forgive my ignorance but what is the difference between 22.2 and 22.3 job? Is a 22.2 better in some way?

It’s the old full-time job, not combo 22.3 job

 

[Brownslave688]

That is a good suggestion, was also thinking they maintain the 22.4 on a Tuesday- Saturday schedule allowing them to always get that Saturday punch in. I was a tcd before becoming 22.4 so I was red circled, going inside the building at $35 an hour is pretty sweet. In my opinion 22.4 shouldn’t be eliminated but definitely needs to be reworked.

I’ll be interested to see if everyone is moved to RPCD. Personally I see 22.4 going away in the sense that if you drive all day you’ll get RPCD pay but if used as intended part time then drive they’ll be paid 22.4 wage.

 

[PT 4 Life]

We only currently have two 22.2 jobs left in our building a certain they’re looking to get rid of those ASAP

Yeah they’re being phased out. I still see 22.3 bids posted but it’s for other hubs not mine.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Forgive my ignorance but what is the difference between 22.2 and 22.3 job? Is a 22.2 better in some way?

Pays a lot more with a lot less physical labor.