Permanent layoffs question

[Monstro2525]

In my building every 22.4 is currently working inside. If the contract goes through and every 22.4 is converted to rpcd, wouldn’t the company just lay off all the extra new drivers if they haven’t been using us anyways? In my supplement rpcd have to drive at least once a week in order to retain full time driver rate.

 

[PT Car Washer]

In my building every 22.4 is currently working inside. If the contract goes through and every 22.4 is converted to rpcd, wouldn’t the company just lay off all the extra new drivers if they haven’t been using us anyways? In my supplement rpcd have to drive at least once a week in order to retain full time driver rate.

Or would 22.4 combination drivers convert to 22.3 combination employees working inside FT.

 

[Monstro2525]

Or would 22.4 combination drivers convert to 22.3 combination employees working inside FT.

That is a good suggestion, was also thinking they maintain the 22.4 on a Tuesday- Saturday schedule allowing them to always get that Saturday punch in. I was a tcd before becoming 22.4 so I was red circled, going inside the building at $35 an hour is pretty sweet. In my opinion 22.4 shouldn’t be eliminated but definitely needs to be reworked.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Or would 22.4 combination drivers convert to 22.3 combination employees working inside FT.

OMG please don't give any advice.

 

[Cowboy Mac]

Or would 22.4 combination drivers convert to 22.3 combination employees working inside FT.

Maybe they can take over the other 40 hours of your workweek so you can go back to being Part Time again.

 

[Brownwind]

Or would 22.4 combination drivers convert to 22.3 combination employees working inside FT.

22.3 would be a sweet thing if I could get it. I’m not sure the company likes those article 22. Jobs where I am.
Making 35+ an hour to work in the building would be great

 

[542thruNthru]

In my building every 22.4 is currently working inside. If the contract goes through and every 22.4 is converted to rpcd, wouldn’t the company just lay off all the extra new drivers if they haven’t been using us anyways? In my supplement rpcd have to drive at least once a week in order to retain full time driver rate.

22.4 afforded you certain protections that most took for granted. Depending on your supp you could be laid off working a split shift in your building at a lower rate. We'll have to wait and see what happens with this new contract and how fast the volume returns though.

 

[Thebrownblob]

22.4 afforded you certain protections that most took for granted. Depending on your supp you could be laid off working a split shift in your building at a lower rate. We'll have to wait and see what happens with this new contract and how fast the volume returns though.

So many are not thinking about that, and could be very disappointed after the contract passes without 22.4 language. Certainly overall I think we would be better off without it but there are a few things that help the 22.4, especially when they’re laid off.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

22.4 afforded you certain protections that most took for granted. Depending on your supp you could be laid off working a split shift in your building at a lower rate. We'll have to wait and see what happens with this new contract and how fast the volume returns though.

How can I pay you a lower rate when your full-time?

 

[542thruNthru]

How can I pay you a lower rate when your full-time?

Lots of supps have this language and many people don't realize it. This is from the Western PA supp.

Notice the "at the appropriate rate for the classification of work performed".

Granted this one is a little more complicated then others by the implementation of (B). But as you can see FT drivers could drop to their preload rate of pay which is below top rate.

 

[Thebrownblob]

How can I pay you a lower rate when your full-time?

Laid off RPCDs who choose to work in the hub, get their hub rate, which is quite a bit less than most are making. 22.4 because it’s a combo job does not lose any pay when they’re laid off

 

[542thruNthru]

Laid off RPCDs who choose to work in the hub, get their hub rate, which is quite a bit less than most are making. 22.4 because it’s a combo job does not lose any pay when they’re laid off

Central isn't like that though right?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Central isn't like that though right?

Correct

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Lots of supps have this language and many people don't realize it. This is from the Western PA supp.
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Notice the "at the appropriate rate for the classification of work performed".

Granted this one is a little more complicated then others by the implementation of (B). But as you can see FT drivers could drop to their preload rate of pay which is below top rate.

Everyone's worried about the money in the contract not about the language.,

 

[Brownsocks]

Everyone's worried about the money in the contract not about the language.,

The language has been the biggest problem here. Too many gray areas for the company to exploit.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

The language has been the biggest problem here. Too many gray areas for the company to exploit.

I said at the beginning of this contract
Too many people thought I was going to have an actual combo job..

Well almost 5 years later we see how that worked out

 

[Staydryitsraining]

Unless they kill Saturday delivery you will still get your punch on Saturday for driving.

 

[Monstro2525]

Unless they kill Saturday delivery you will still get your punch on Saturday for driving.

Yeah I’ve been getting Friday and Saturday in but now I gotta stress getting that punch in

 

[KearsargeCoop]

Correct

Wait really? Central here, and if a RPCD works the sort, but doesn't drive they are getting inside wage. Is that not correct?

 

[dogs.bite.me]

Wait really? Central here, and if a RPCD works the sort, but doesn't drive they are getting inside wage. Is that not correct?

If it’s anything like Southern, if they don’t get a driver punch, their rate of pay decreases to inside rate