Say goodbye to bottled water and coffee machines

[hondo]

As was told to me: if you lose something (it's taken away), grieve it! You may still lose it, but at least you tried and didn't acquiesce. FWIW, paper towel grievance was won here. They were reinstalled.

 

[JonFrum]

Well just in the last week or so there's an instance. Red is grieving the sales rewards being changed.

I don't know exactly where the line is drawn between things that are frozen in place by a contract, and things that are left to management's discression. I would guess, and it is only a guess, that sales lead rewards are not grievable.

Having said that, there is nothing wrong with filing a grievance and seeing where it goes. Infact, asking for a clarification of an issue is itself a valid use of the grievance proceedure. No harm done just asking.
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Incidentally, since the paper towels have been removed from our lunch room, no one is willing to buy any of the gooey items. The moist muffins and such sit in the vending machine for a couple of weeks unsold, and every Monday MisterJunkFoodMan throws them all in the trash barrell because they are past their expiration date. For lack of a penny's worth of paper towels, a $1.25 muffin is thrown away. What's wrong with this picture?

 

[Just Numbers]

No, not everything. Just the important stuff, as defined by the NLRA. (Various other federal, state and local laws mandate certain things as well.)


That would be an Unfair Labor Practice under the NLRA. Certain things are "Mandatory Subjects of Bargaining" and can not be unilaterally changed mid-contract by UPS.


UPS has signed these contracts with the Teamsters time after time for decades and recommended them to us for ratification.

Also, UPS likes being covered by the NLRA. They are even trying to force FedEx to be covered by it.

[The "country is screwed up" because of decades of bad policies by Liberals, Progressives, Community Organizers and Socialists. Not because of our use of paper towels, water, coffee and other small necessities at work.]

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You forgot to mention that the teamsters backed a community organizer in the last election!

 

[JonFrum]

You forgot to mention that the teamsters backed a community organizer in the last election!

Barack Obama is taking us over the cliff, and the IBT wants to be his driver.

 

[dilligaf]

I don't know exactly where the line is drawn between things that are frozen in place by a contract, and things that are left to management's discression. I would guess, and it is only a guess, that sales lead rewards are not grievable.

Having said that, there is nothing wrong with filing a grievance and seeing where it goes. Infact, asking for a clarification of an issue is itself a valid use of the grievance proceedure. No harm done just asking.
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You are right Jon, there is no harm in finding out. It's like asking questions. As far as filing, anything that was in place previously and then removed (unless specifically covered in the contract) should be able to be filed under past practice.

 

[Just Numbers]

Barack Obama is taking us over the cliff, and the IBT wants to be his driver.

AGREE!

 

[Mike23]

I'd also bring up (with the newspaper article) that we had a driver pass away this week due to not having enough water. I'm pretty sure the union will (and should) rip UPS a new one if they're taking away your water with just that little bit of info.
http://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/nashua-nh-driver-passed-away-today.260832/
That's the link to the post I read it on (new of course). I'm sure if you did some scrounging you could find an article someplace on it.

 

[JonFrum]

You are right Jon, there is no harm in finding out. It's like asking questions. As far as filing, anything that was in place previously and then removed (unless specifically covered in the contract) should be able to be filed under past practice.

True. But in order to win the grievance, the Past Practice must have been agreed to by both sides, at least tacitly. If UPS announced from Day One that a non-contractual practice was only temporary, optional, or doesn't set a precedent, then it may not be a winable Past Practice.

It may still be worth filing though to make a point, or to see if UPS will agree to continue the practice, even though they don't legally have to. They might want to avoid creating Ill Will, for example. (I know. Now I'm talkin' crazy talk.)

 

[JonFrum]

. . . Now we have a grievance in over paper towels being removed from the lunch room.

UPDATE: We just won our grievance about paper towels in the lunch room.

Ah, the sweet taste of victory in my mouth!

And if I dribble any on my chin, I can wipe it off with -- (drum roll please) -- a paper towel!!!

Neat how that all works out.

 

[tourists24]

UPDATE: We just won our grievance about paper towels in the lunch room.

Ah, the sweet taste of victory in my mouth!

And if I dribble any on my chin, I can wipe it off with -- (drum roll please) -- a paper towel!!!

Neat how that all works out.

please tell me that grievance was settled before getting to panel... Id like to sit in on that panel case if it was heard... lol... Next case::: paper towel robbery