Unfortunately it will also stop some people from getting care they really need to get well.
You side with the company, just like the people in UPSers.com. I will see you in 2013 when your company takes 162 bucks out for your health care. In 2014 it will be 212 a month, I cant wait to hear you then big boy.
No, I prefer to think of myself as a realist and someone who is able to assess the situation and adjust accordingly.
Healthcare will be a huge part of the negotiations leading up to 2013. Obamacare will only add to the mix. As I said, I fully expect to begin paying, in one way or another, for my healthcare. We will be at $32/hr+ by 2013--freeze the wage at the point and continue to pay for my healthcare and I will be satisifed.
I think Upstate is right. With 3 years to go on your Contract you should ask for concessions now....take a pay cut and go ahead and pay for your insurance. Lot less grief if you do it now. If 2727 had done that 7 years ago we would not be in the mess we are in now!In a year when many companies were happy to not lose money, UPS netted $2.6 billion and have continued to pay a healthy dividend on their stock. Good sized pay increase for upper management as well as cost of living. Should anyone be resigned to accepting a pay freeze this early into our contract? I am reasonably sure that UPS sees FedEx as the largest threat their kingdom has ever seen. With that threat looming in the background, if the employees would show some kind unity I would think the company would be a little more flexible with the pursestrings.
One of the primary reasons that companies and insurance companies have pushed for employees to pay for healthcare, meet deductibles, co-pays, pay-as-you-go is that people think about whether the doctor visit, prescribed medicine or procedures are really needed when they are paying for part of the cost.
A significant portion of prescribed procedures are done simply to mitigate the risk of lawsuits by patients.
I have refused to get 2 MRIs in the last 2 years because I did not feel they were necessary. If my out-of-pocket was $0, then I probably would have got them.
Just some thoughts on this subject.
...give Unabletomoveon time after his Meals on Wheels lunch and I'm sure he'll find one.
I think Upstate is right. With 3 years to go on your Contract you should ask for concessions now....take a pay cut and go ahead and pay for your insurance. Lot less grief if you do it now. If 2727 had done that 7 years ago we would not be in the mess we are in now!
I think Upstate is right. With 3 years to go on your Contract you should ask for concessions now....take a pay cut and go ahead and pay for your insurance. Lot less grief if you do it now. If 2727 had done that 7 years ago we would not be in the mess we are in now!
Yes I disappeared to work double shift to make Cobalt boat payment. Added to retro check plus had to go to Derby with a bunch of UPSers. More things to do than worry about a bunch of sups and mgrs that pay for insurance. I am worried about all the IBT and IPA union workers that make UPS what it is. We have not run off enough mgr to turn a profit since most only sit and stare at internet all day while drivers, pilots, mechanics, loaders, and admin run operations. Sorry about not getting back have life to live. Airbusfxr is ready to be released from Mediation.
Yes I disappeared to work double shift to make Cobalt boat payment. Added to retro check plus had to go to Derby with a bunch of UPSers. More things to do than worry about a bunch of sups and mgrs that pay for insurance. I am worried about all the IBT and IPA union workers that make UPS what it is. We have not run off enough mgr to turn a profit since most only sit and stare at internet all day while drivers, pilots, mechanics, loaders, and admin run operations. Sorry about not getting back have life to live. Airbusfxr is ready to be released from Mediation.
You must certainly have reading comprehension issues or perhaps your Union blinders prevent you from proper comprehension. I never said that the current contract needs to be renegotiated but I do think that, barring any major recovery between now ans 2013, we all need to prepare ourselves for some sort of concession. This is the reality that we will face come 2013.
Maybe it would be wise to wait until 2013 before you start talking about taking concessions. By then we could be making Billions....oh I forgot we are already making Billions.