Stealing company time.

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by 1989NW, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. 1989NW

    1989NW Member

    FT package driver here. Can the company consider using our phone for personal use while not clocked into a break as stealing company time? SUP did an observation on me and said he saw me several times use my phone for a couple minutes at a time. He told me that I am stealing company time and that I should be disciplined for it. He said the exact same thing about visiting with one of my customers for 5 min. Could I really get accused of stealing time for this?
  2. silenze

    silenze Lunch is the best part of the day

    Use hands free. And you can talk all day at work
  3. 1989NW

    1989NW Member

    I was not talking on the phone. I do use hands free when I am talking on the phone
  4. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    Yes, you could get accused of stealing time for this.

    Usually these are bogus charges.

    The widespread use of cell phones for a variety of things, including things that benefit UPS is so commonplace these charges are usually lame.

    The charges are not always bogus though.
  5. Netsua 3:16

    Netsua 3:16 Stop being a little bitch

    Good opportunity to pull the “ok, I’ll never use my phone on road again” line.
    “Call the center”
    “Sorry I don’t use my phone on road since I got in trouble for it”
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  6. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Oh yeah.

    Were you conversing with UPS ?

    I will agree, that UPS has "conditioned" drivers to use their phone for

    company business.... and that's the fault of the individual, for letting that happen.

    The DIAD can communicate with UPS.

    Including directions.... to the address of a mis-loaded pkg.


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  7. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Yes you can be. There's a difference between making a call to a doctor or calling your Latin lover for some sex talk.
  8. Maple Grove MN Driver

    Maple Grove MN Driver Cocaine Mang!

    Never use your phone for work.

    Unless UPS is paying your bill.
  9. Brisket

    Brisket Well-Known Member

    Which in most cases will NEVER happen.
  10. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    I think all of us probably use the UPS discount most of the carriers have...
  11. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

  12. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    Texting with wife. Emergency situation at home. Problem solved. Impossible to verify
  13. Dragon

    Dragon Package Center Manager

    Several times using cell phone = if it was personal time, do the right thing and code out a break or some lunch

    Visiting with one of my customers = UPS business you are good, shooting the breeze or personal time code it out.

    Problem solved for you.
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  14. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    I'm on my phone all the time while working. Hell I'm in it right now. I just got done watching space cowboys on Netflix.

    Tell your sup to shut up and go back to the office and read Facebook where he belongs. ;)
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  15. Saca La

    Saca La What is it?

    I just got discharged for stealing time. I stopped by the gas station on my way to my first stop to get some ice and forgot to put in my 10 min break. He fired me for dishonesty and stealing time even though I told him the truth when he asked my where I went in the morning. Hopefully I get my job back.......
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  16. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    Troll right?
  17. Saca La

    Saca La What is it?

    No. Serious :censored2:. I knew he had it out for me. I already had a warning letter for no shaving. And he got me with the trip to the gas station. Thankfully the shop steward defended me with the other stuff he was trying to pin on for.
  18. Boywondr

    Boywondr The truth never changes.

    If they try to discipline you for making phone calls have your ba requisition the driver diad training for cell phone use. In the training it instructs the driver multiple times to get out of the traffic right of way and make your call(s). No where does it say for you to punch in a break. That being said, dont abuse it.
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  19. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    You were following the company's training on staying hydrated....
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  20. Ghost in the Darkness

    Ghost in the Darkness Well-Known Member

    My secretary frequently does not answer the phone. Its a shame too because someone has to lift their chubby fingers and type out a message on the diad. Its a real inconvenience for all of us.