Most accidents are the result of dumb decisions, i.e. needless backing.
But thanks for playing.
Stupid Friggin' Accident
- Thread starter MassWineGuy
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But thanks for playing.
SmithBarney
Well-Known Member
No partaking in an activity that is not part of Operating a Motor vehicle is a DUMB Decision. Much like you wouldn't knit a sweater while driving.. Needlessly backing, could be arguably a sound decision, playing angry birds while driving, can never be seen as a sound decision.
MassWineGuy
Well-Known Member
What's a poser, exactly?
Yup. I worked UPS seasonally, always got positive rehires, and don't work there now. For me, that's better. My sup let me use him as a reference. Obviously I was a terrible employee.
I realize that neither Cosmo nor any other driver (UPS or otherwise) ever has an accident. And that's great.
It would take a lot to put your intelligence aside, Harry. But I'm doing my best.
Yup. I worked UPS seasonally, always got positive rehires, and don't work there now. For me, that's better. My sup let me use him as a reference. Obviously I was a terrible employee.
I realize that neither Cosmo nor any other driver (UPS or otherwise) ever has an accident. And that's great.
It would take a lot to put your intelligence aside, Harry. But I'm doing my best.
DontThrowPackages
Well-Known Member
Volunteered? Don't feel bad. Somewhere in the history of this company, one employee Volunteered to work and didn't come home. Be happy that's all it was.
MassWineGuy
Well-Known Member
Uh... OK.
Whatever.
Are they going to give you a letter? two more accidents in the next 12 months with letters and you are looking for a new job. In fact one more accident in the next couple months that results in a letter, they are going to be giving you the option of looking for a non driving position. I have seen things snowball quickly for drivers, so its time to get serious out there now. If not sure, GOAL. Remember any kind of backing accident now days is an automatic letter.
Route 66
Slapped Upside-da-Head Member
but youre a devil-may-care, hell-bent-for-destruction, complete maniac inside of the station!!!
STFXG
Well-Known Member
So you guys can have 3 accidents in a year before you're fired? I thought Express had higher standards than ground?
dezguy
Well-Known Member
The key word is had. As Sam states regularly; We're all ground now.
olroadbeech
Happy Verified UPSer
typing while driving is dumb?You're a Ground driver and therefore you suck. When will you ever learn?!
Years ago I was pulling away from a stop, TYPING THE RECIPIENTS name and drove straight into a parking lot light post. Yep. I understand dumb accidents.
And don't you forget it!
No. A better way to state it would be: ..You can be at fault for 2 accidents in a 12 month period and be ok, but might want to consider if you should continue being in a driving position. The 3rd at fault accident(preventable) in a 12 month period and you are gone. Now you can be involved in 3 accidents(or more) in a 12 month period and as long as they are found to be non-preventable you are fine. At that point you are probably just considered bad luck and won't have too many people around you or at least wanting to drive with you.
Now if that is the same way it is at Ground, then it sounds like an across the board FedEx rule. Which would be sort of weird since you guys are running your own business and just contracting out to FedEx. You think you would set the standards on which you would want your drivers to live up to. Not have FedEx tell you how to do it. Maybe you can ever have stricter standards than FedEx and fire your driver for the 2nd preventable accident in 12 months.
It will be fine
Well-Known Member
3 or more preventable in a CMV is a 36 month suspension at Ground. It's under current driver qualifications. There are a bunch of standards, like DUIs, committing felonies, roll overs etc. They exist for our insurance coverage.
olroadbeech
Happy Verified UPSer
I was thinking of another word for it. rhymes with cupid.
dezguy
Well-Known Member
Nothing is non preventable anymore. I know of a guy at another station who got t-boned by someone running a stop sign. Spent a couple days in the hospital and the rest of the week at home. Hurried up and got back to work only to get called into the managers office and presented with a letter of concern because of an avoidable accident.No. A better way to state it would be: ..You can be at fault for 2 accidents in a 12 month period and be ok, but might want to consider if you should continue being in a driving position. The 3rd at fault accident(preventable) in a 12 month period and you are gone. Now you can be involved in 3 accidents(or more) in a 12 month period and as long as they are found to be non-preventable you are fine. At that point you are probably just considered bad luck and won't have too many people around you or at least wanting to drive with you.
Now if that is the same way it is at Ground, then it sounds like an across the board FedEx rule. Which would be sort of weird since you guys are running your own business and just contracting out to FedEx. You think you would set the standards on which you would want your drivers to live up to. Not have FedEx tell you how to do it. Maybe you can ever have stricter standards than FedEx and fire your driver for the 2nd preventable accident in 12 months.
Same as UPS. Not maintaining space on all 6 sides.
DontThrowPackages
Well-Known Member
Yeah and just tell the person and their attorney you hit that management deemed the accident your fault. Hard to argue against your own judgment.
