Such a peaceful religion...

[El Correcto]

our govt creates hell holes around the world. thats the point of terrorism by our govt, to control. its probably very similar to what stalin did.

honestly you and badideaguy would probably have been bigger supporters of someone like stalin than me. im very critical of govt.

Yet not the labor party in England for some strange reason.

 

[floridays]

So let’s make government bigger, wonderful idea socialist fraud.

Excellent, Senor Sombrero.

 

[rickyb]

Yet not the labor party in England for some strange reason.

i didnt say i supported the party, but i support corbyn.

maybe (unlikely) you support trump but not corrupt republicans.

but i am aware of govt terrorism which i automatically dont support unless i hear otherwise.

i dont see you guys criticizing govt terrorism, so thats why i say you would be more likely to support stalin.

 

[floridays]

our govt creates hell holes around the world. thats the point of terrorism by our govt, to control. its probably very similar to what stalin did.

honestly you and badideaguy would probably have been bigger supporters of someone like stalin than me. im very critical of govt.

Tell your Canadian politicians to stop creating "Hellholes" then.
Once again, you are critical of government, yet want more of it and less of freedom. You offer an inconsistent argument.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

Terrorism is by definition "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

To prove your point, therefore, you have to prove that the US government broke the law to go to war, that they specifically targeted civilians, and that they were doing it for primarily political reasons.

So I ask you.
What laws did the US government break?
Did we specifically try to target civilians?
Can you prove that we were doing it for political gain?

 

[rickyb]

Terrorism is by definition "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

To prove your point, therefore, you have to prove that the US government broke the law to go to war, that they specifically targeted civilians, and that they were doing it for primarily political reasons.

So I ask you.
What laws did the US government break?
Did we specifically try to target civilians?
Can you prove that we were doing it for political gain?

you definitely broke international laws.

you probably broke your own domestic laws like congress authorizing war, obama killing americans without due process, etc.

the US govt is a lawless country. a rogue state.

dude, of course you were doing it for political gain. how clueless can you be

im listening to this right now

Intercepted: Noam Chomsky On The State Of The Empire – Ruthenians.net

 

[rickyb]

We do not target innocent civilians. You are not a "WE," stay out of our politics, Canuck. America is a sovereign nation, and there are a few of us left that prefer to see it remain the same. Got that?

you should follow the golden rule then

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

you definitely broke international laws.

you probably broke your own domestic laws like congress authorizing war, obama killing americans without due process, etc.

the US govt is a lawless country. a rogue state.

dude, of course you were doing it for political gain. how clueless can you be

im listening to this right now

Intercepted: Noam Chomsky On The State Of The Empire – Ruthenians.net

Not listening to that garbage. But thanks.

You didn't answer my question.
Not "did we". What laws did we break? Specifics, please.

You also refused to answer if we specifically attempted to target civilians. (Prerequisite for terrorism.)

You finally did not provide any proof of whether or not we were pursuing this for political aims.

You basically didn't answer anything.

 

[rickyb]

Tell your Canadian politicians to stop creating "Hellholes" then.
Once again, you are critical of government, yet want more of it and less of freedom. You offer an inconsistent argument.

im critical of govt and capitalism

as soon as we liberate ourselves from capitalist orders, we can consider freeing ourselves from govt.

but until them, govt is the only check on corporate powers

 

[rickyb]

Not listening to that garbage. But thanks.

You didn't answer my question.
Not "did we". What laws did we break. Specifics, please.

You also refused to answer if we specifically attempted to target civilians. (Prerequisite for terrorism.)

You finally did not provide any proof of whether or not we were pursuing this for political aims.

You basically didn't answer anything.

i dont have to. you havent proved your innocent and seem to be bewildered about what happened on 9/11.

you can use your self initiative, and search "terrorism" with noam chomsky, chris hedges a war correspondent, jeremy scahill, glenn greenwald, etc.

im not going to jump through your hoops.

 

[floridays]

you should follow the golden rule then

I do, it still doesn't make me acceptable. You shouldn't make unfounded assumptions.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

i dont have to. you havent proved your innocent and seem to be bewildered about what happened on 9/11.

you can use your self initiative, and search "terrorism" with noam chomsky, chris hedges a war correspondent, jeremy scahill, glenn greenwald, etc.

im not going to jump through your hoops.

That's just fantastic. I love it.
"you havent proved your innocent".
(Corrected: "You haven't proven your innocence.") You're welcome.

I bet I can guess which way you fall on the Brett Kavanaugh hearings.

If you plan on making accusations, the burden of proof is on you.

 

[rickyb]

That's just fantastic. I love it.
"you havent proved your innocent".
(Corrected: "You haven't proven your innocence.") You're welcome.

I bet I can guess which way you fall on the Brett Kavanaugh hearings.

If you plan on making accusations, the burden of proof is on you.

i dont have to prove . i gave you places to look so you can wake up.

im not the only one making claims here. you claim muslims are terrorists. its a needle in a haystack.

your justice system is in shambles. alot of people are mezmerized by whether he sexually assaulted or not, but thats beyond the real question about what is the status on the rule of law in america. i posted yesterday on the kav thread.

chris hedges called occupy the true conservatives because we wanted a restoration of the rule of law.

 

[floridays]

im critical of govt and capitalism

as soon as we liberate ourselves from capitalist orders, we can consider freeing ourselves from govt.

but until them, govt is the only check on corporate powers

Understood, you are in favor of socialist government, a government that can, by law, take from those that have and give to the less "fortunate." A corporation does not have this power, by law, and you still see corporations as the threat to an individuals freedom, simply amazing. Who's stuff do you want a government to give to You?

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

i dont have to prove . i gave you places to look so you can wake up.

your justice system is in shambles. alot of people are mezmerized by whether he sexually assaulted or not, but thats beyond the real question about what is the status on the rule of law in america. i posted yesterday on the kav thread.

chris hedges called occupy the true conservatives because we wanted a restoration of the rule of law.

A truly fair justice system requires proof of accusations.
You are therefore contributing, by expecting others to believe you without supplying evidence.

Vagueries like, "look up Noam Chomsky" are ridiculously absurd, and do your arguments more harm than good.

You argue in half sentences, and can't even be bothered to use decent grammar.
You contradict your own ideals, (Complaining about the lack of justice, and then committing slander without any evidence). You argue against governments, and then preach about how the US broke "International laws".

You are a joke, Ricky.

 

[El Correcto]

as soon as we liberate ourselves from capitalist orders, we can consider freeing ourselves from govt.

RickyB

From mama’s basement to the killing fields

A true story of one commies misguided pursuit of justice.

 

[floridays]

i dont have to prove . i gave you places to look so you can wake up.

im not the only one making claims here. you claim muslims are terrorists. its a needle in a haystack.

your justice system is in shambles. alot of people are mezmerized by whether he sexually assaulted or not, but thats beyond the real question about what is the status on the rule of law in america. i posted yesterday on the kav thread.

chris hedges called occupy the true conservatives because we wanted a restoration of the rule of law.

And if American jurisprudence is in shambles or being bastardized, you need only thank the left.

 

[floridays]

A truly fair justice system requires proof of accusations.
You are therefore contributing, by expecting others to believe you without supplying evidence.

Vagueries like, "look up Noam Chomsky" are ridiculously absurd, and do your arguments more harm than good.

You argue in half sentences, and can't even be bothered to use decent grammar.
You contradict your own ideals, (Complaining about the lack of justice, and then committing slander without any evidence). You argue against governments, and then preach about how the US broke "International laws".

You are a joke, Ricky.

Or a useful idiot?

 

[rickyb]

Understood, you are in favor of socialist government, a government that can, by law, take from those that have and give to the less "fortunate." A corporation does not have this power, by law, and you still see corporations as the threat to an individuals freedom, simply amazing. Who's stuff do you want a government to give to You?

corporations are a threat to individual freedoms.

 

[rickyb]

A truly fair justice system requires proof of accusations.
You are therefore contributing, by expecting others to believe you without supplying evidence.

Vagueries like, "look up Noam Chomsky" are ridiculously absurd, and do your arguments more harm than good.

You argue in half sentences, and can't even be bothered to use decent grammar.
You contradict your own ideals, (Complaining about the lack of justice, and then committing slander without any evidence). You argue against governments, and then preach about how the US broke "International laws".

You are a joke, Ricky.

look up my posts on the kav thread.

get serious, and stop whining about 9/11 if you insist on remaining ignorant