brown_trousers
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I would count on this judgement to be limited to public sector unions only. It is very unlikely the court will expand their ruling to include private sector unions as well
Supreme court to rule on union dues
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cachmeifucan
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The argument is mandatory payment. For a service someone may not want sort of like the mandate for health care that's was just ruled unconstitutional
brown_trousers
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Its not a mandatory payment. Accepting a job at UPS is an option. Therefore, being a part of the teamsters is an option. There are no laws forcing anyone to get a job at UPS
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
cachmeifucan
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But if I don't want my dues supporting one party over the other now I'm being forced to donate to a cause one may or may not agree with
Gimme Danger
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The Janus case going before the Supreme Court impacts public sector unions. The Teamsters have over 200,000 public sector union members.
Private sector union members are governed by the Railway Labor Act and National Labor Relations Act, and as amended by the Taft Hartley Act and Landrum Griffin Act (LMRDA). Taft Hartley allows for states to enact union-busting free rider laws (Right to Work), currently at 28 states.
The Republicans and Trump believe in national Right to Work for less and the enslavement of workers.
Private sector union members are governed by the Railway Labor Act and National Labor Relations Act, and as amended by the Taft Hartley Act and Landrum Griffin Act (LMRDA). Taft Hartley allows for states to enact union-busting free rider laws (Right to Work), currently at 28 states.
The Republicans and Trump believe in national Right to Work for less and the enslavement of workers.
cachmeifucan
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Amen
cachmeifucan
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How is that lawsuit against fedex being govern by the same laws as us. ups is being held to a higher standard than fedex and now amazon Jeff bezos is making Abney look bad. He is worth 120 billion 14 years younger than bill Gates and the smartest ceo imo. Ups is hard to stay at top of mountain people are nipping at our heals and soon they will move 100 % of their own volume and then they can go after our contracts if ups keeps letting them build info structure they will cream us paying 0 to pensions
cachmeifucan
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Bring on alibaba to crush amazon it's the Chinese version
cachmeifucan
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What local is hoping u retire so I can see how much the donate illegally. It's not hard to find.
cachmeifucan
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Go to opensecrets.org and tell me 1 party is benefiting from my dues and I donate to drive every week for 15 years. You donate to fast food and dumbing people down typical arrogant attitude call me boy and company bit cheaper just shows how mad the truth gets you
Gimme Danger
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Political campaign contributions are through DRIVE, which is a voluntary contribution separate from dues.
Dues are used for advocacy for laws that help us as workers, or against laws that hurt us as workers. But this advocacy (and some other expenses) is calculated annually and is the difference between member dues and non-member fair share fees.
If you think the union shouldn't advocate for us as workers then we are doomed as a labor movement.
To paraphrase Walter Reuther of the UAW, what we negotiate at the bargaining table can be wiped away with legislation. (Including our right to bargain collectively).
Dues are used for advocacy for laws that help us as workers, or against laws that hurt us as workers. But this advocacy (and some other expenses) is calculated annually and is the difference between member dues and non-member fair share fees.
If you think the union shouldn't advocate for us as workers then we are doomed as a labor movement.
To paraphrase Walter Reuther of the UAW, what we negotiate at the bargaining table can be wiped away with legislation. (Including our right to bargain collectively).
cachmeifucan
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Raising taxes hurts workers importing cheap labor hurts workers yet democrats advocate for this every day.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
I don't know if its true, but I heard they were going to be deciding about making Right To Work a National law . If this is true , it will effect private unions .
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Uneducated people are the one's that need the Union the most!
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
No , No .. it is the masses that NEED educated about organized labor .
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Because they are uneducated.
I think we agree.
People with STEM degrees don't need Unions.
Teachers probably do.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
@Monkey Butt for the win.
He learned him sum spell'n.
We're doomed, with this generation.
If @cachmeifucan is not a millennial.... offspring, shouldn't be his forte.
-Bug-
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
I don't think so . The general population needs educated about organized labor . You inferred the uneducated are in need unions because of their lack of education .
