The Hybrid Driver might be leverage next contract.

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Backlasher, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. Backlasher

    Backlasher Stronger, Faster, Browner

    Every vote counts and boosts the percentage in either direction. Don't be so closed minded. Stay out of the Box friends.
     
  2. Backlasher

    Backlasher Stronger, Faster, Browner

    A few extra voter participants along with a larger percentage voting No can really change it.
     
  3. DOK

    DOK Well-Known Member

    We didn’t lose it was voted down, it is ratified at this point but far from over.
     
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  4. Backlasher

    Backlasher Stronger, Faster, Browner

    We lost because we didn't have a 2/3rd no vote. The other way of lose is we didn't have 50+1% voting. Either of these 2 factors could of changed. It can swing next contract if we do it right.
     
  5. Backlasher

    Backlasher Stronger, Faster, Browner

    In a way, blame can be put on the non voters. How many full timers/ part timers would of voted No but lacked the faith in our system? Now either we can allow this negatively to hurt our future vote or take advantage of this and rally a stronger vote letting all know that it only took 5% to fail! Across the national, thats only a handful of extra votes needed per center. Come on friends, stay out of the box.
     
  6. Backlasher

    Backlasher Stronger, Faster, Browner

    Just a small combination of more no votes along with a little bit of increase in voter participants would of changed the course and can still change the future.
     
  7. Over disciplined0123

    Over disciplined0123 Active Member

    That is 5 years from now, which I'm quite sure it will be another fight like keeping self driving trucks from moving or delivering our packages ,or use of drones. Like I said I'm sure the rcpds from 5 yrs ago will be either replaced or retired or who knows Mabry even bought out ... just like they did with auto workers ironic thing is the higher paid auto workers were bought out after the introduction of 2 tier wage system their previous contract
     
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  8. badpal

    badpal Active Member

    Selfish i know, but i voted yes for that very reason and we got some old part timers around the building who started about the same time as Jim Casey. They were hoping the same to make an inside job for the hybrids.
     
  9. Backlasher

    Backlasher Stronger, Faster, Browner

    So if 12% of the yes votes had more confidence in voting No, we would of had our 2/3rd needed. That's only 4968.6 members.
     
  10. Coldworld

    Coldworld Bad mall cop...no donut!!!

    Im sure thats something hoffa had in the bAck of his mind... might as well give a week of vacation back while we’re at it...
     
  11. Coldworld

    Coldworld Bad mall cop...no donut!!!

    Unfortunately ups would NEVER agree to a hybrid driver who makes top wage and would have the possibility of working inside the building....they arent paying someone 40 bucks to load a pkg car..
     
  12. UPSerSheik

    UPSerSheik Victim of mediocrity

    Unfortunately though what happened with the Teamsters is just going to open a whole new ugly can of worms. It has successfully showed that unions can be bought off by Wall Street and that the members can be divided. Other companies will soon start doing the same. The ramifications for organized labor as a whole will be shocking.
     
  13. SameRightsForAll

    SameRightsForAll Active Member

    Oh yes, let's surrender today so we can fight tomorrow. Sounds like a plan, boys. We'll call it Operation Fetal Position.
     
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  14. Backlasher

    Backlasher Stronger, Faster, Browner

    You and I are now bros.
     
  15. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    UPS pays Union members $35/hr to clean toilets and empty the trash cans. UPS pays preloaders $35.65/hr when they could pay $10/hr. Except no one else wants the job so UPS ends up paying over $50/hr for double sorters.
     
  16. The Real Jack RyanMI6

    The Real Jack RyanMI6 Active Member

    Im not so sure rpcds will be bought out, think of it this way, a rpcd is by strict definition a driver and 22.4 is not. Thus technology and discipline section says driver. Now how many of us will survive a virtual OSJ ride each and every day "by the methods " listen up folks its coming they only need rpcds on Monday's. So they can giveb us 1,3,& 5 day Suspensions by the methods. Sorry guys no matter how good you are the data they collect on us is so intense non of us will survive ive seen the methods reports to survive youll have to bouns by at least 2.0 hours per day every day or you fail by the methods. Thus by starving us out by 1, 3, and 5 day Suspensions older guys will retire younger will leave and no unemployment paid by UPS. Doubt me if you wish its your future
     
  17. Over disciplined0123

    Over disciplined0123 Active Member

    Were doomed your saying
     
  18. Over disciplined0123

    Over disciplined0123 Active Member

    Remember technology can not be used for disciplinary purposes. But I'm sure that the international will find a loophole in contract to have us terminated