The Runner Gunner Lunch Skippers are HATING the new DOT lunch rule

[Upsmule]

I suppose some think that recognizing a "brother" who's doing something that will get him or others in a bad situation BEFORE it happens and try and prevent it is "ratting" him out also?

Sound like the union definition of "brother" is a bit selective.

​Clearly.

 

[Upsmule]

I don't care if you choose to be out until O'dark thirty every night....or if I have to "swing by" your route and take 20 or 30 over dispatched stops off you. Whatever floats your boat man.....regardless of how much of a dill weed it makes you look like. I won't hold it against you.

 

[soberups]

Now that I have no choice, of course I will. My point was, while it was my choice I chose my choice. God Bless America unless your a Teamster that supports the socialists down at the DNC apparently.

When you skipped your lunch before, what did you enter into the DIAD?

Its one thing to skip your lunch and put zero lunch in the DIAD. Its wrong, and you might be breaking the rules, but at least you are being honest about it and not working off of the clock or setting up the driver who runs your route when you are gone to have to do the same thing.

The drivers I have a real problem with are the gutless turds who care so much about looking good on a stupid report that they skip their lunch and put a full hour into the DIAD. They are working off of the clock; they are lying about it; and they are setting their relief driver up to be over dispatched and harassed because he has no hope of maintaining the dishonestly high production standard that has become the norm for that route.

We all have families. I have skipped my lunch a time or two in the past in order to make it to a ball game or a kids school function...but at least I had the balls and the integrity to put "Lunch 12:00-12:00" in the DIAD in order to be honest and I was willing to stand up and take the heat for my actions the next day.

 

[Upsmule]

When you skipped your lunch before, what did you enter into the DIAD?

Its one thing to skip your lunch and put zero lunch in the DIAD. Its wrong, and you might be breaking the rules, but at least you are being honest about it and not working off of the clock or setting up the driver who runs your route when you are gone to have to do the same thing.

The drivers I have a real problem with are the gutless turds who care so much about looking good on a stupid report that they skip their lunch and put a full hour into the DIAD. They are working off of the clock; they are lying about it; and they are setting their relief driver up to be over dispatched and harassed because he has no hope of maintaining the dishonestly high production standard that has become the norm for that route.

We all have families. I have skipped my lunch a time or two in the past in order to make it to a ball game or a kids school function...but at least I had the balls and the integrity to put "Lunch 12:00-12:00" in the DIAD in order to be honest and I was willing to stand up and take the heat for my actions the next day.

Have never been allowed to NOT record a full hour lunch in the board whether I take it or not. I've heard thats why this new 30 min break deal is now being enforced, thanks to a California law suit I'm not sure of the details about. Speaking of which - where's our back pay for every minute that is documented in that died board for every hour we never took but were docked for?

Plus....every supervisor knows damn well that if one driver is off that day.....they will know the difference between me and the driver doing the route that day.....if not, and that driver is over 9.5 thats on supervision not the driver. Just thank them for the over time when you punch out at 10:00 that night.

 

[over9five]

When you skipped your lunch before, what did you enter into the DIAD?

Its one thing to skip your lunch and put zero lunch in the DIAD. Its wrong, and you might be breaking the rules, but at least you are being honest about it and not working off of the clock or setting up the driver who runs your route when you are gone to have to do the same thing.

The drivers I have a real problem with are the gutless turds who care so much about looking good on a stupid report that they skip their lunch and put a full hour into the DIAD. They are working off of the clock; they are lying about it; and they are setting their relief driver up to be over dispatched and harassed because he has no hope of maintaining the dishonestly high production standard that has become the norm for that route.

We all have families. I have skipped my lunch a time or two in the past in order to make it to a ball game or a kids school function...but at least I had the balls and the integrity to put "Lunch 12:00-12:00" in the DIAD in order to be honest and I was willing to stand up and take the heat for my actions the next day.

And it is the same thing when you put your break in the DIAD, but you are in the back sorting.

 

[Upsmule]

I could care less about a numbers report or what it makes a center manager or supervisor look like or not. I have choices when I do the job I'm being paid well to do. So I make them so I can have a life. Have a good one brothers.

 

[Dracula]

Damn, man, have you ever figured out much money you have given UPS? Basically, you've paid UPS to work for them. That is just foolishness.

 

[Upsmule]

Damn, man, have you ever figured out much money you have given UPS? Basically, you've paid UPS to work for them. That is just foolishness.

Look....I get it....really I do. It's a horrible catch 22 either way. I choose the way I do in order to be home every night at a decent hour. Does it work out that way every night? Hell no. But it's still the better alternative for me personally. Again, I don't hold it against any driver that can hold managements feet to the fire. My hats off to you honestly. It's just a fight I don't have the piss and vinegar for. Your path places a bull's eye on your back and sets you up for management harassment. Daily harassment, and if you slip up your looking forward to a panel that decides to get you your job back, or not......my choice at least keeps them off my back. This of course depends on ones management team sadly, not always a sure thing either sadly.

 

[DOK]

Not required to take lunch here, just be sure to record atleast a half hou in the board before 8 hrs is up. The new 11hr driving rule is the one that intrigues me, yet no one is talking about it.

 

[over9five]

Not required to take lunch here, just be sure to record atleast a half hou in the board before 8 hrs is up. The new 11hr driving rule is the one that intrigues me, yet no one is talking about it.

There is no new 11 hour rule, it hasn't changed.

 

[pickup]

Any one of you know this job is nothing like it used to be. Yeah, the runners have always been abused and always will be. The walkers are abused as well, and with a bulls eye on their backs... again, your choice. $32 bucks an hour for being a delivery boy still beats digging ditches for 10 or 12 bucks an hour.

Just for the sake of accuracy, skipping an hour of lunch will make a 9 hour day into an 8 hour day, giving you $28.40 an hour. 32 x 8 = 256. 256 divided by 9= 28.40. Actually, if you got paid for your 9 hours, you would have made 304 dollars for the day, divided by 9 would have given you 33.78 an hour.

You leave a 5 dollar an hour raise on the table when you skip lunch .

 

[Upsmule]

Not when your in a bonus center running 10.5 to 11.0 hour "planned" days 5 days a week....that's 2+ hours a day, ave 10 give or take hours a week, I've gotten while being at home eating dinner with the wife and kids.

 

[Upsmule]

Priceless.

 

[pickup]

Not when your in a bonus center running 10.5 to 11.0 hour "planned" days 5 days a week....that's 2+ hours a day, ave 10 give or take hours a week, I've gotten while being at home eating dinner with the wife and kids.

Okay, I didn't take that into consideration.

 

[Upsmule]

It's still a catch 22 though....but again. A choice that's the better of two evils for me personally. Political pun intended.

 

['Lord Brown's bidding']

And it is the same thing when you put your break in the DIAD, but you are in the back sorting.

Over, it is sozoooo not the same thing, and I believe you know that. If you don't, well...

The law is meant to protect us; sorting boxes does not endanger us in anyway if it is our choice, you know that. I am thankful that typically officers and inspectors have some common sense, and aren't blindly following laws and regulations without considering circumstances. Again, this isn't about protecting "brothers", these are about personal union agendas, people too lazy, man up and do the work, so they want to hold someone else back. It isn't "manly" to stay out to the darkest parts of the night for a principle about sticking it to the man. It helps nothing.

Those who fought before didn't do so so that I can have my lunch shoved down my throat; it was so I had the right, the choice, to take it. Some forget it is not a duty to exercise a right, only to exercise honorably when doing so. You guys go too far..

 

[over9five]

Over, it is sozoooo not the same thing, and I believe you know that. If you don't, well...

The law is meant to protect us; sorting boxes does not endanger us in anyway if it is our choice, you know that. I am thankful that typically officers and inspectors have some common sense, and aren't blindly following laws and regulations without considering circumstances. Again, this isn't about protecting "brothers", these are about personal union agendas, people too lazy, man up and do the work, so they want to hold someone else back. It isn't "manly" to stay out to the darkest parts of the night for a principle about sticking it to the man. It helps nothing.

Those who fought before didn't do so so that I can have my lunch shoved down my throat; it was so I had the right, the choice, to take it. Some forget it is not a duty to exercise a right, only to exercise honorably when doing so. You guys go too far..

Lunchrunner mentality. Unfortunately, you'll never lose it.

 

['Lord Brown's bidding']

Dracula, in the end, thats my business if I chooseto do so (the thought has crossedmy mind so I am waayyy more selective in when I will use it, especially when I think I need to work Saturday, and then realize if take my lunch there's my Saturday right there).

I can't understand how people can blow oogles of money gambling or smoking, but they have the right to spend that money as they choose. However, unlike those engaging in those activities which affect many others who are not directly involved but cannot avoid being affected, sorting on one's own time doesn't have to affect ANYONE else, provided, ironically, if they follow Over's advice and grow a pair. Learn to fight your own battles; I didn't always fight the battles for my fleshly siblings, nor my spiritual ones. Why must I be dragged into yours?

 

[Tim Alcavage]

I think that this is a great idea, slow some of these Runner down !!1, There is a veteran driver in my center that has been using the " I Can Not Get Lunch On My Trip for Years " . Guess he will not be stealing time any more .. Big Brown is always watching :-() . Take your Hour Lunch and 10min Break every day !!!, And in doing this, Maybe the centers will not be cutting so many trips !!!!

 

[Brownslave688]

And it is the same thing when you put your break in the DIAD, but you are in the back sorting.

Over, it is sozoooo not the same thing, and I believe you know that. If you don't, well...

The law is meant to protect us; sorting boxes does not endanger us in anyway if it is our choice, you know that. I am thankful that typically officers and inspectors have some common sense, and aren't blindly following laws and regulations without considering circumstances. Again, this isn't about protecting "brothers", these are about personal union agendas, people too lazy, man up and do the work, so they want to hold someone else back. It isn't "manly" to stay out to the darkest parts of the night for a principle about sticking it to the man. It helps nothing.

Those who fought before didn't do so so that I can have my lunch shoved down my throat; it was so I had the right, the choice, to take it. Some forget it is not a duty to exercise a right, only to exercise honorably when doing so. You guys go too far..

Do u work for the DOT? NO? Then u have no idea what the true intent of the law is. All we know is what's in print. It says 30 minutes of break. Sorting the truck is not break. End of story.

I'm not saying weather or not its ok or if people that do it can be caught. Simply saying its not break time.