There is no 25% hybrid driver limit

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by silenze, Jun 30, 2018.

  1. silenze

    silenze Lunch is the best part of the day

    If the amount of regular Saturday or Sunday volume in a building consistently requires RPCD drivers to work Saturday or Sunday because of the twenty-five percent (25%) limit, the Package Division Director
    and UPS President of Labor Relations shall be allowed to adjust the limit based on demonstrated service need

    Yes thats right your concession queen Denise Taylor can adjust the 25% cap at will.

    Do you trust this guy?

    Ibt.io/22.4b
     
  2. CoolStoryBro

    CoolStoryBro Active Member

    The number of saturday routes proposed in the center I work in is greater than 25% of the total RPCD's. However, I know that at least 10% of our RPCD's consistently work a 6th day when available.
     
  3. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Because they are OT whores?
     
  4. CoolStoryBro

    CoolStoryBro Active Member

    We have a crew of guys who max out their hours. And a few more who wish they could but don't have enough seniority.

    I'm right behind them. I get 50-55 hours a week. I get whiny and cranky if I go over 55.
     
  5. eats packages

    eats packages Tetris Master

    A few of my drivers like it in spurts, take several dead days for a month, then hammer out a bunch of overtime the next.

    Benefits of high seniority.
     
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  6. Superteeth2478

    Superteeth2478 Active Member

    That language doesn't matter much anyways, if there isn't a penalty for going above that 25% figure. On top of that, they probably will anyways and just pay the penalty if there is one. And on top of that, look closely at the language on that 25% percent figure. It's 25% of the number of RPCDs in the building. So any new buildings will not have any RPCDs since the company can just hire 22.4 positions from the start, and never will because 25% of zero is zero.
     
  7. TearsInRain

    TearsInRain IE boogeyman

    i don’t think there’s a building in the country that runs 25% or more of its FT staffing on a saturday

    you’re probably safe on this one
     
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  8. Benben

    Benben Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!

    Careful friend. I am in the top 33% on the seniority list and barely made the cut to stay Monday-Friday and not Tues-Sat! I think you paint with too broad a stroke on this one.
     
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  10. specter208

    specter208 Active Member

    Not exactly, if a new building starts and the company hires for example 25 22.4s, they would have to create also 75 regular FT driving spots.
     
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  11. Yaba Daba Do

    Yaba Daba Do Donkey Punch Extraordinaire

    There needs to be a limit on the hours they can work in a day. It is a combo job not just a driver job so if a hybrid driver drives for more than say 4 hours in a day he should be paid OT rate or get full time driver pay all day or something to prevent the company from just using them as lower paid regular driver. If they did that I would be okay with it.
     
  12. Light

    Light New Member

    I am a new driver off the street and got hired in june I am in the mid west however they put me in preload I am wondering if they are keeping me there until august so they can put me on the new contract no the old contract
    anyone have an insight
     
  13. silenze

    silenze Lunch is the best part of the day

    You must qualify and have your 30 days of driving before aug 1
     
  14. Superteeth2478

    Superteeth2478 Active Member

    One can only hope that's how the language will be interpreted, but I'm certain that they've already discussed that contingency with their lawyers and already know that they'll be able to fully staff all new buildings with hybrid drivers without creating full-time positions. Look closely at the language. It's all about the technicalities, and if it suits them, they'll interpret that language literally. It clearly says 25% of the full-time drivers in the building. A new building has no employees. I could be wrong.
     
  15. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Well-Known Member

    They shouldn't be allowed more than 4 hours of driving time.
     
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  16. TheFigurehead

    TheFigurehead Active Member

    They shouldn't be allowed. Period.
     
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  17. Yaba Daba Do

    Yaba Daba Do Donkey Punch Extraordinaire

    Agreed, but since we know how much UPS likes to follow the contract, there needs to be a financial penalty that would make it more expensive to use a hybrid driver than a regular driver after four hours. That's the only way they would actually think about not doing it. The union seems to like the slap on the wrist penalty though that doesn't do anything to change company behavior.
     
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  18. Coldworld

    Coldworld Bad mall cop...no donut!!!

    Oh brother..
     
  19. Coldworld

    Coldworld Bad mall cop...no donut!!!

    Ups wanted flexibility help on the weekends... keep hybrids on the weekends Saturday driving and during the week in the hub helping staff the bare bone operations... keep sups from working...
     
  20. Ghost in the Darkness

    Ghost in the Darkness Well-Known Member

    We already know who benefits from the language for anything contested. Vote no and keep it from getting started.
     
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