Two UPSers Lose Their Lives At Ontario Air Hub

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by SoCalUPS, Nov 26, 2019.

  1. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

  2. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

  3. Is this the brothers of Teamsters 104? You can bet the union is already fighting for these clowns jobs back.
  4. 2 were drivers of course.

  5. No one asked you, you’re not the OP.
  6. Boywondr

    Boywondr The truth never changes.

    If it's TRUE why isn't there a roll over cage?
  7. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    Because when they are operated properly there is no need for one.
  8. Boywondr

    Boywondr The truth never changes.

    Fork lifts have roll cages fyi as do other motorized equipment that can roll over. Obviously this tug can roll or flip over in case you didnt notice nutcase.

    Also fyi, being ignorant isn't as obvious if you keep your mouth shut... in case your mom or dad hasn't told you that when you were growing up.
  9. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    Forklifts have roll cages to prevent pallets stacked on shelves from falling on them; unfortunately, as with most safety measures, these were added after workers had been crushed by falling boxes.

    99.99% of the folks who drive tugs on tarmac are able to do so without flipping over.

    These 2 yahoos are (were) the .01%.
  10. Boywondr

    Boywondr The truth never changes.

    You have no percentages to back up your vague assertions and why doesnt the crown electric pallet stackers have roll cages on all of their units einstein?
    You need to post after you get some brain cells.
  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    Which part of "these two yahoos are dead because they were stupid" are you having difficulty with?
  12. Boywondr

    Boywondr The truth never changes.

    Here, I tagged your post like a man. The issue I posted about was a rollover cage to protect occupants no matter what the issue is ding bat.
    The guy hit a curb and rolled over.
    Please educate yourself before you spew stupidity.
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    You should learn the limitations of a piece of equipment before you operate it.

    The forklift in question was not designed to do what he tried to do with it.
  14. Boywondr

    Boywondr The truth never changes.

    Roll cages are like air bags in purpose. In case someone does something stupid the bags and roll cages are for protecting the occupants.

    When you walked out in front of that car were you the stupid one or was it the driver? If you wouldve been killed the company wouldve said that you weren't aware of your surroundings when you walked in front of the car.

    Just like climbing on a bumper at a gas station to your wash windows is stupidity and it is against ups rules but you did it anyway knowing the risk.

    Roll cages and air bags arent there to dictate safety. They are there to save lives when something happens, whether from horseplay or from an oversight that causes accidents.

    You're a loud mouth with a little man syndrome regardless of your stature. No one missed your goading posting when you left so you could improve the site again if history would repeat itself.
  15. Boywondr

    Boywondr The truth never changes.

  16. cachmeifucan

    cachmeifucan Well-Known Member

    So sad rest in peace. Picture is definitely poor taste I definitely didn't want to see that. We supposed to be brothers. This whole post should be removed I'm all for free speech but what kind of person pulls out a phone and takes a picture in a time like that. That person should be fired.
  17. Boywondr

    Boywondr The truth never changes.

    Cheryl already posted it in the Latest Headlines forum.
    Unfortunately, a picture is worth 1000 safety pcms.

    Our ors suck at watching the behavior of new drivers on the road. I saw one driver tailgating an older driver (10 feet behind her car) at about 35 mph. The guy just had an avoidable accident recently so you'd think he would be more cautious but, no, back to the same behavior and the lesser seniority drivers are just as bad if not worse.
    It's the company's money. They can shell it out in court or with ors observation hours and I'm sure osha is digging on their tug training info.
  18. quad decade guy

    quad decade guy Active Member

    I am a private pilot and an A&P but drive a feeder. I agree with all you said but would add this: why

    does it take 2 fatalities? This is bizarre to me. Like our feeder hubs, nobody is watching. I'm sure

    there could be several observers on the ramp to just observe and correct this type of behavior.

    We both know this will never happen. 100% preventable/avoidable. So when the lawsuits fly,

    this behavior was an ongoing, constant occurrence and was not addressed? To an outside observer,

    how would this look? Who is responsible for allowing this to continue? There is ultimately someone.
  19. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    UPS will push that it was employee misconduct along with the probability of drugs and or alcohol. Family will be lucky if UPS does not go after their estate for damaged property and missed service.
  20. Package Stick

    Package Stick "Send it."

    I can flip our tugs if I wanted. I took a sharp turn and the tug went up on 2 wheels, the rentals are FAST. So are the PE tugs.