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Okay what percent is that compared to every E-Board member in the IBT smarty pants?
What's an "IBT smarty pants"? That's a naughty thing to call some Eboard member.

Do you mean square pants?

There's a new batch of corruption in every issue and those are just the ones that got caught.
A little poison in the punch affects alot of people.

Let's argue about things that are not blatantly visible...
The visibility is the issue and even tho only two or three terrorists cause carnage with suicide vests it still makes headlines and people form opinions.

That's the point.
 

Inthegame

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Okay what percent is that compared to every E-Board member in the IBT smarty pants? That was hypothetical because we all know it is a small percent just like every organization around the globe.
Bingo. This concept seems to be beyond the comprehension ability of some critical thinkers of these pages. When one considers the 500 or so Teamster Locals, under far more scrutiny than any other union, the bad seeds are few. Pick 500 for profit organizations and turn the IRB loose on them and they'd be building a few prisons.
 

10 point

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Bingo. This concept seems to be beyond the comprehension ability of some critical thinkers of these pages. When one considers the 500 or so Teamster Locals, under far more scrutiny than any other union, the bad seeds are few. Pick 500 for profit organizations and turn the IRB loose on them and they'd be building a few prisons.
The saddest thing is that even tho everyone knows the irb is lurking they still break the law anyway. Pompous and reckless. Crooked people will be crooked people regardless of the circumstances and punishment.
 

LagunaBrown

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The saddest thing is that even tho everyone knows the irb is lurking they still break the law anyway. Pompous and reckless. Crooked people will be crooked people regardless of the circumstances and punishment.
Sure I can agree with that but to say everyone in the IBT is corrupt is ridiculous. To say anyone is better than a whole slate because of one mans mistakes is just silly. This is the old "throwing the baby out with the bath water" analogy and does more harm than good. It is the battle cry for TDU thus far from a solution and more like a Coup d'etat.
 
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10 point

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Sure I can agree with that but to say everyone in the IBT is corrupt is ridiculous. To say anyone is better than a whole slate because of one mans mistakes is just silly. This is the old "throwing the baby out with the bath water" analogy and does more harm than good. It is the battle cry for TDU thus far from a solution and more like a Coup d'etat.
I'm not condemning anyone or the union as a whole
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The fact is that the IBT has been under IRB scrutiny for years and there's evidently a reason (or multiple ones) for it.

Other unions, when the members are considering to vote in the Teamsters as representation, use the IRB oversight of our Union to try to keep their sheep in their pen.

Perception is key and so even with IRB oversight looming and the Teamsters on the verge of shedding that scrutiny why do some folks still push the envelope and the Union as a whole takes the hit in the public's mind and it greatly hampers organizing efforts at times.

Those charges, my friend, if validated, shows utter stupidity and since it's leadership folks involved and indicted it again validates the "corrupt legacy" as continuing.

When honest hard working members fail to see growth in their union (which we desperately need!) partly due to this issue they should be outraged instead of shrugging it off as business as usual.

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