Western Pennsylvania April 6th VOTE

[MoarTape]

How are you saying this most recent offer is worse than the first offer? It is identical to the first offer except, they are not taking Black Friday away as paid at time and a half until the final year of the contract. In the first offer, we would have lost it at time and a half immediately.

Slightly worse. They reduced the pension contributions. They also took away time and a half for part timers that are forced to work holidays. I was for the first offer and I'm for this one. They've made it clear that if this is voted down, the second offer will be forced. There was also mention of 66 new full time jobs for western PA, but I haven't been able to find that in either agreement.

I may be mistaken on the pension contributions, so please, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Yes- it is out of character for a union "official ".... to spend dues money frivolously. Lol.

So.... who are you resting your laurels on ?

 

[stray]

Slightly worse. They reduced the pension contributions. They also took away time and a half for part timers that are forced to work holidays. I was for the first offer and I'm for this one. They've made it clear that if this is voted down, the second offer will be forced. There was also mention of 66 new full time jobs for western PA, but I haven't been able to find that in either agreement.

I may be mistaken on the pension contributions, so please, correct me if I'm wrong.

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The language that you're showing from the recent offer is not in place of the pension contributions described in the MOU. The ($.30/.00/.01/.03/.05) is the amount UPS will additionally put into the pension fund, rather than having it taken from our hourly raises. Also, the PT employees are still getting OT for their 6th and 7th punch.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

So.... who are you resting your laurels on ?

You really....got me Big Union Man. Either way- wouldn't do much good discussing anything with you since you know everything. Thanks for everything tough guy.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

If it's good till May 10th why is the union making and vote on it in person by April 6th. Seems to me they have plenty of time send out paper ballots.

Way more to the story than that. The fix is in
Vote the mother ers out.

 

[542thruNthru]

Way more to the story than that. The fix is in
Vote the mother ers out.

I agree. It's either accept the offer or have the last one imposed on you.

The IBT sees it as 3000 members (243 and WPA) that voted No holding up the contract and they don't care.

2021 can't come quick enough.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I agree. It's either accept the offer or have the last one imposed on you.

The IBT sees it as 3000 members (243 and WPA) that voted No holding up the contract and they don't care.

2021 can't come quick enough.

It's all scare tactics

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

Hoffa would roll over in his grave. Smh.

 

[Brownslave688]

Hoffa would roll over in his grave. Smh.

Jr is gonna get a foot up his ass in the afterlife

 

[Jonathon Freeloader]

So, it's more than likely going to pass this time?

Any word on 243's?

 

[MyTripisCut]

So, it's more than likely going to pass this time?

Any word on 243's?

Who said that? Don’t worry, you’ll get your retro check someday. More at stake than the stupid check.

 

[Superteeth2478]

Who said that? Don’t worry, you’ll get your retro check someday. More at stake than the stupid check.

Yeah, all that freeloader is interested in is the retro check. He doesn't care about how this is affecting the IBT and unions in general.

 

[Jonathon Freeloader]

Yeah, all that freeloader is interested in is the retro check. He doesn't care about how this is affecting the IBT and unions in general.

Hence the name. Freeloading for life

 

[MyTripisCut]

Hence the name. Freeloading for life

Enjoy your life changing retro check. That’s ass sniffing money bro. Nothing more.

 

[Jonathon Freeloader]

Enjoy your life changing retro check. That’s ass sniffing money bro. Nothing more.

Enjoy your wife less, knee hurting, orion ridden, pension losing retirement.

 

[MoarTape]

The language that you're showing from the recent offer is not in place of the pension contributions described in the MOU. The ($.30/.00/.01/.03/.05) is the amount UPS will additionally put into the pension fund, rather than having it taken from our hourly raises. Also, the PT employees are still getting OT for their 6th and 7th punch.

It says "this paragraph shall replace the MOU", so I don't see how that would be the case. Are you referring to the "up to 50 cents" part? I may have misread that the first time around. Hopefully they don't weasel their way out of that part.

That's the whole point of the explanation before the vote. Hopefully everyone will have a better understanding and it doesn't turn into a complete show.

 

[MyTripisCut]

Enjoy your wife less, knee hurting, orion ridden, pension losing retirement.

Oh, you’re waiting for Retro then you quit? Nice, I hope you trip on the stairs today.

 

[Team89]

These threads can be more hostile than the company we work for sometimes...

 

[stray]

It says "this paragraph shall replace the MOU", so I don't see how that would be the case. Are you referring to the "up to 50 cents" part? I may have misread that the first time around. Hopefully they don't weasel their way out of that part.

That's the whole point of the explanation before the vote. Hopefully everyone will have a better understanding and it doesn't turn into a complete show.

Actually, it says "all terms of the first tentative agreement will be included". Then, line 1 says the July 2018 MOU on 4/10s will also be included, as well as the other terms described in lines 2 & 3. It is an improvement over the 1st offer and FAR superior to the 2nd offer.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

You really....got me Big Union Man. Either way- wouldn't do much good discussing anything with you since you know everything. Thanks for everything tough guy.

I'm open to discussing anything, with anyone.

Just don't get butt hurt.... because I don't agree with you.


I can appreciate opinions and idealistic views.

But, I deal with reality.... which is the contract.