What are the cardinal sins that will get you permanently fired?

542thruNthru

Well-Known Member
We never got into it before this is the first so it just happened then and there and the union they’re trying to help I guess they wanted me to quit but the union told them I’m not quiting they made the decison for me I feel like what I’m saying is just being ignored the bottom line is even if the camera shows it how am I in Trouble when he came so close to my face? That’s grounds to be hit but I didn’t. I heard people came back to work a lot of times under work place violence I’m a great worker and all the managers know this and major of the union says that I’m usually a quiet person it’s sucks the coworker is jealous that they provoked me
Slow down.

Who wants you to quit?
So you're saying the union and the company are aware of what happen?
Has HR spoken with you? Have you spoken with your Buisness Agent?
 

Janedoey

Well-Known Member
Slow down.

Who wants you to quit?
So you're saying the union and the company are aware of what happen?
Has HR spoken with you? Have you spoken with your Buisness Agent?
Yes, a union walked up while it was going on then the lp or the security guy whoever sits in that security office came and said come with me took my id asked me a few questions to write a statement and then gave me an ultimatum but the union guy answered fast and said I’m not resigning. BA? Honesty I’m just lost because this is the first time dealing with the union and lp and even getting in trouble for anything I never had any write ups or problems
 

Janedoey

Well-Known Member
Yes, a union walked up while it was going on then the lp or the security guy whoever sits in that security office came and said come with me took my id asked me a few questions to write a statement and then gave me an ultimatum but the union guy answered fast and said I’m not resigning. BA? Honesty I’m just lost because this is the first time dealing with the union and lp and even getting in trouble for anything I never had any write ups or problems
No one spoke to me but the union and the lp guy the union basically wanted to just talk it out right there but the lp guy was so sure he just wanted it to go panel and walked me out
 

Janedoey

Well-Known Member
Slow down.

Who wants you to quit?
So you're saying the union and the company are aware of what happen?
Has HR spoken with you? Have you spoken with your Buisness Agent?
If anything still doesn’t make sense to you, feel free to ask all the questions because you’re probably just trying to gain understanding to help me out and I’m trying to get help because I’m lost myself
 

burrheadd

KING Of GIFS
If anything still doesn’t make sense to you, feel free to ask all the questions because you’re probably just trying to gain understanding to help me out and I’m trying to get help because I’m lost myself
1. find you your locals phone number

2. Call it ask to speak to the business agent in charge of whatever facility you work at

3. Tell him your story

4. Listen to what he says


Is this really this difficult
 

Janedoey

Well-Known Member
1. find you your locals phone number

2. Call it ask to speak to the business agent in charge of whatever facility you work at

3. Tell him your story

4. Listen to what he says


Is this really this difficult
It’s not difficult I just didn’t know all of this
 
Carrying a firearm. Stew once told me about a driver back in the 90’s who would carry (or at least keep in the cargo area) a loaded 45. This driver had a route in one of the tougher areas of Oakland during the height of the bloods-crips gang war. Although you may be able to sympathize with him, it cost him his job when he forgot to drop it off at his car before going into center. A kid unloading his truck found it.
lies. There are no bloods or crips in oakland
 

Gixxer2003

Well-Known Member
What are the cardinal sins that will get your permanently fired and the union will not back you up?
Drinking on the job stealing and punching someone in the face will get u permanently fired but i have to say I’ve seen two drivers come VERY close to putting hands on each other right in front of the whole center including the MNGR and neither one of them got in any trouble. Believe it or not it was the mngr who pushed them apart he said knock it off or I’m gonna walk u both outta here. He was a down to earth guy
 

Lineandinitial

Well-Known Member
Be honest, don’t fight on UPS Property, DO NOT STEAL, show up on time everyday on your scheduled shift, and don’t come in under the influence. If you need the day off, call in 1 HOUR before your scheduled shift. You know, basic things that every decent person should abide by. If you follow these methods I can promise that you will always have a job at UPS.
Good Points...
I would add "tolerance" because you're not there "for good reason" and that little PT Sup has to ensure it happens.

If he was a jacko in the past, here's his payday.....
If he's decent, you work it out.
 

Almost

Member
Stealing time. i.e. taking 10 to 30 minute naps on company time. I've seen that one happen a few times. Just code it off as meal and management wont care as long as the loads aren't "hot".
Also have seen sleeper team get fired because they would wait until their scheduled departure time (2 to 3 hours every Friday) before bobtailing to their home base to finish work for the week. Which is a 30 minute drive.
 

Martini

Well-Known Member
As long as the supervisor likes you, you can pretty much do whatever you want to and still keep your job.
Likewise, if they don't like you, then watch your back.
 

Martini

Well-Known Member
In my building, one of the long-time employees (he's been working there about 20 years) often jokes about how many times he's been fired and re-hired over the course of his UPS career.

He said he was fired and re-hired three times, but he doesn't say what he did that got him into trouble.
If I had to guess, I'd say it probably was arguing/talking back/running his mouth, etc. to a supervisor because he's a decent guy and isn't a thief or a dishonest person.

Anyway, my point is that they are so desperate for workers that they'll hire ya back over & over again.
LOL
 

Rack em

First to worst!
In my building, one of the long-time employees (he's been working there about 20 years) often jokes about how many times he's been fired and re-hired over the course of his UPS career.

He said he was fired and re-hired three times, but he doesn't say what he did that got him into trouble.
If I had to guess, I'd say it probably was arguing/talking back/running his mouth, etc. to a supervisor because he's a decent guy and isn't a thief or a dishonest person.

Anyway, my point is that they are so desperate for workers that they'll hire ya back over & over again.
LOL
No, they are just stupid and fire people like your coworker without cause. The union gets their job back without even having to try because there wasn't a reason for him to be fired in the first place.
 
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