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Benben

Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
I'm pointing out an interesting FACT about tRump pushing something that those who have spent their entire lives studying say there is no proof of!
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Because you have to read the studies! That's what the experts do. First "study" quoted by tRump started with 24 patients. They excluded 8 that went to ICU, 1 died and 1 had a reaction to the malaria drug.

You do understand that 14 getting better while 10 did not is not a positive study and proves nothing right?

That's called anecdotal evidence! It's like me saying Vantexan touched his sister when she was 10 years old and and she became a lesbian in her 20's. Therefore if you want your daughter to remain a virgin in her teens have her brother touch her.
Just saw that a doctor who has the largest lupus practice in the U.S., works out of the famous Mt. Cedar Sinai hospital, wrote to the FDA that he has prescribed hydroxychloroquine for decades for usage other than for malaria. Said it's extremely safe, at most in a small percentage may cause a rash or stomach upset. Has worked well since it's release in 1955. Maybe you should talk to him.
 
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vantexan

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I'm pointing out an interesting FACT about tRump pushing something that those who have spent their entire lives studying say there is no proof of!
You mean all the people who've gotten better after taking it are lying? Their doctors who prescribed it are lying? Do you really hope it doesn't work so that it won't help Trump?
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
We've got a potential treatment and liberals are upset about it.

FFS.
You people are disgusting.

Nahhhhh. They’re just concerned that it hasn’t undergone the proper clinical trials! Folks who were close to death but made miraculous turnarounds after treatment might just have superpowers! Trump is such a meanie for saying it might work! He can’t be right! He’s not right about anything!
 

Benben

Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
You mean all the people who've gotten better after taking it are lying? Their doctors who prescribed it are lying? Do you really hope it doesn't work so that it won't help Trump?

Unreal! Let's take a look at your argument shall we???

A disease that has a mortality rate of between 1-5% (depending on differing reports) by definition sees 95+ percent getting better. So by your rational if any of those 95+ were given the drug then the drug works?????

ANCEDOTAL!
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Nahhhhh. They’re just concerned that it hasn’t undergone the proper clinical trials! Folks who were close to death but made miraculous turnarounds after treatment might just have superpowers! Trump is such a meanie for saying it might work! He can’t be right! He’s not right about anything!
You are totally free now.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Unreal! Let's take a look at your argument shall we???

A disease that has a mortality rate of between 1-5% (depending on differing reports) by definition sees 95+ percent getting better. So by your rational if any of those 95+ were given the drug then the drug works?????

ANCEDOTAL!
Not worried about the people who got mild cases of Covid-19. Those who get a severe case of it have a much greater chance than 5% of dying. Those who survive a severe case also in many instances are coming out with permanent impairments of the heart and lungs. So if a drug looks promising do you deny access because you don't want any credit going to Trump? Well?
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
Unreal! Let's take a look at your argument shall we???

A disease that has a mortality rate of between 1-5% (depending on differing reports) by definition sees 95+ percent getting better. So by your rational if any of those 95+ were given the drug then the drug works?????

No. Because only 2%-10.5% of the overall total of infected by age group actually end up in a hospital ICU and are candidates for hydroxychloroquine use. And it sounds like among that much smaller group of severe cases, those who have been given the drug as they began their final descent toward death made convincing recoveries.

I know it’s hard to let Trump have a W over this. He’s an idiot and a terrible person. But we shouldn’t let that get in the way of trying anything that might help patients who would otherwise only have a ventilator and a much higher chance of death to fall back on.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
No. Because only 2%-10.5% of the overall total of infected by age group actually end up in a hospital ICU and are candidates for hydroxychloroquine use. And it sounds like among that much smaller group of severe cases, those who have been given the drug as they began their final descent toward death made convincing recoveries.

I know it’s hard to let Trump have a W over this. He’s an idiot and a terrible person. But we shouldn’t let that get in the way of trying anything that might help patients who would otherwise only have a ventilator and a much higher chance of death to fall back on.
Apparently it's worth tens of thousands of deaths to Benben to see Trump defeated in November. As long as it's not him or his family.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
A "miracle" those who believe this :censored2: are smart enough to take their next breaths!

Course it's Laura Ingraham, imagine that?

I dont think laura has treated anyone. a prominent doctor in Los Angeles among many has and is getting good results.
you're rooting against a possible treatment will not change it. It is however important you get your digs in early before it becomes a success. its really sad snowflakes like you are rooting against a possible life saving drug, rooting for people to die just so they can mock the current president

LA doctor seeing success with hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Listen to me very, very carefully. If it cured covid-19 within 2 hours why do you think we have 10's of thousands dead? Think about it! This is why idiots who listen to Fox News are so :censored2:ing dangerous to society!

so your assumptive argument is if people died they were treated with HC . um yea thats a winner. It still has be rolled out in many places
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Guy, if HC was a wonder drug, we would know that by now, right?


lot of negative assumptions . the fda has approved it to being tested for wuhan flue. its being tested right now and getting good results.

did you see the democratic representative from michigan who says her life was saved. Shes a democrat but she's saying thank you to the president for pushing this .
 
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