ThePackageDeli
Well-Known Member
If you do the simple math on cost for last mile service and it comes out that Amazon is able to get the job done cheaper then guess what, they will be snatching away our business.
Well, under the new contract in MN all new hires start at $15.00/hour. I like the union and the dues and protection! $30.00/hour part time. Free insurance, vacation, paid sick days. All the overtime that I want.*HYPOTHETICAL:
Beginning next year, all new hires are given the choice between being a union member, paying dues and starting out at $13 -OR- opting out of the union and starting at $15/hr... What's stoppping UPS from replacing it's workforce in 5-10 years time with largely non-union employees?
They've never faced a company like Amazon since the e-commerce boom. Ebay is starting a shipping service too even.. The industry leverage we once had when we fist unionized is weakening and we can't compete with companies offering the same services provided by employees making 1/3 of what we make.Are you going to answer my original question?
Do you know any of the history about UPS?
They survived a couple of world wars
The great depression and the great recession.
Countless numbers of competitors
Sometimes they dropped the ball but they still find their way.
The new people don't show up now......the veterans show up everyday!They give money to new hires as a weekly show up bonus, which is not in the contract.
Why would they not be able to give long time employees a buy out?
Fewer weeks of vacation, less $ per hour, etc.
4th and final time answer the Damn questionThey've never faced a company like Amazon since the e-commerce boom. Ebay is starting a shipping service too even.. The industry leverage we once had when we fist unionized is weakening and we can't compete with companies offering the same services provided by employees making 1/3 of what we make.
It's called work ethic.The new people don't show up now......the veterans show up everyday!
Seniority Date: May 2007How long have you worked here? Or do you even work here?
Then go make some money for this company and keep it afloat.Seniority Date: May 2007
I'll keep showing up. I'm just saying. We're already losing accounts. The landscape is changing and I don't know what challenges the next 5-10 years will bring.Then go make some money for this company and keep it afloat.
They can't handle their own, they are not close to it yetIf you do the simple math on cost for last mile service and it comes out that Amazon is able to get the job done cheaper then guess what, they will be snatching away our business.
ever seen a UPS driver vs. Amazon driver?I'll keep showing up. I'm just saying. We're already losing accounts. The landscape is changing and I don't know what challenges the next 5-10 years will bring.
If I made as many misdeliveries as they did I wouldn't have a job...ever seen a UPS driver vs. Amazon driver?
I was delivering in Texas today and some old guy stood in his yard while I delivered across the street, and then didn’t move one foot while I had to bring a package to him as wellI was outside in the yard today. Amazon driver delivered a package to my neighbor across the street. She got back in her little van, started it up, pulled it up 5', got out of it and brought me a package as well.
I love when they do that... lol..... I take their package and put it on their porchI was delivering in Texas today and some old guy stood in his yard while I delivered across the street, and then didn’t move one foot while I had to bring a package to him as well
All ups has to do is get jamie flemming to make another doom and gloom chart and post it on YouTube. The union will create this new 22.5 job you want to save your fat mip bonus.For example, if the company ever came to the point where they absolutely needed to lower employee wages in order to stay in business, are they allowed to somehow overthrow the union. Would they have to fire the entire workforce and hire non-union employees, or would current employees have to sign a waiver to leave the union?
I don't think that was you, cause I met the driver halfway down my driveway and took the package from her.I was delivering in Texas today and some old guy stood in his yard while I delivered across the street, and then didn’t move one foot while I had to bring a package to him as well
They've never faced a company like Amazon since the e-commerce boom. Ebay is starting a shipping service too even.. The industry leverage we once had when we fist unionized is weakening and we can't compete with companies offering the same services provided by employees making 1/3 of what we make.