Will UPS ever offer driver buyout?

[Turdferguson]

They've never faced a company like Amazon since the e-commerce boom. Ebay is starting a shipping service too even.. The industry leverage we once had when we fist unionized is weakening and we can't compete with companies offering the same services provided by employees making 1/3 of what we make.

You do realize that FedEx isn't unionized and is actually UPS main competition?
Amazon is just delivering their own stuff and is having trouble doing it.
Amazon is moving away from USPS and UPS for its in-house delivery network — but the 'sloppier' system may be delaying your packages

 

[Wally]

For example, if the company ever came to the point where they absolutely needed to lower employee wages in order to stay in business, are they allowed to somehow overthrow the union. Would they have to fire the entire workforce and hire non-union employees, or would current employees have to sign a waiver to leave the union?

Lower wage workers?

Have they lowered Management salaries/perks? Start hacking heavily at the top then work down.

 

[ThePackageDeli]

You do realize that FedEx isn't unionized and is actually UPS main competition?
Amazon is just delivering their own stuff and is having trouble doing it.
Amazon is moving away from USPS and UPS for its in-house delivery network — but the 'sloppier' system may be delaying your packages

It's sloppier now. But I'm not talking about now. I'm talking about 5-10 years out.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

In an effort to remain competitive in an evolving market, will UPS offer buyout to RPCD's?

This idea has come up every time the contract has been re-negotiated for

like the last 30 years. The answer is no.... it will never happen.

 

[gman042]

It's called work ethic.

When I mentioned work ethic in front of one of the new drivers, he snorted in disgust. What the hell is that, he said.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

When I mentioned work ethic in front of one of the new drivers, he snorted in disgust. What the hell is that, he said.

Sad but true.

 

[brownmonster]

When I mentioned work ethic in front of one of the new drivers, he snorted in disgust. What the hell is that, he said.

There a drivers at all levels of seniority snorting in disgust at mention of work ethic.

 

[Zowert]

UPS would have to pay a penalty to get out of/separate from the Teamsters Union. If that happened UPS could offer drivers whatever wages they wanted without having to deal with collective bargaining. Basically, you can take a pay cut or head for the unemployment line. They’d have to hire a ton of new drivers off the street to fill in for the ones who say “friend you!”

 

[Brownslave688]

Times are changing and the Union wages aren't sustainable.

Been hearing that for 20 years.

 

[Brownslave688]

You do realize that FedEx isn't unionized and is actually UPS main competition?
Amazon is just delivering their own stuff and is having trouble doing it.
Amazon is moving away from USPS and UPS for its in-house delivery network — but the 'sloppier' system may be delaying your packages

Some of these people would suffocate on Bezos D* before they’d spit it out and admit amazon isn’t the new world order.

 

[Wally]

Times are changing and the Union wages aren't sustainable.

Corporate is earning big off our labor and productivity.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

Corporate is earning big off our labor and productivity.

You are right, the Teamsters "leaders" have really bumped up those salaries far more %-wise than any UPS hourly.

 

[Brown Biscuit]

I wouldn’t take a buyout. Not that I like this place, but I still have 20 years to go. Unless it’s a ridiculous amount, I’ll stay and make my money.

 

[Wally]

You are right, the Teamsters "leaders" have really bumped up those salaries far more %-wise than any UPS hourly.

Hoffa screwed up. Vote him out.

 

[Gman33909]

Hoffa screwed up. Vote him out.

Dont worry hes not gonna run the next election, he knows hes done

 

[UnconTROLLed]

Hoffa screwed up. Vote him out.

Yeah, vote down those contracts, too! little difference. The family business self-perpetuates.

 

[scratch]

There is no way UPS will ever offer drivers a buyout. It's much cheaper to overwork them until they quit. We are nothing but pieces of equipment that can be replaced by a cheaper piece of equipment. The company does not care about any of its employees as human beings one bit. It's really simple when one learns to accept this reality.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

There is no way UPS will ever offer driver's a buyout. It's much cheaper to overwork them until they quit. We are nothing but pieces of equipment that can be replaced by a cheaper piece of equipment. The company does not care about any of its employees as human beings one bit. Its really simple when one learns to accept this reality.

Unless the union agreed to more 22.4 jobs and less RPCD

 

[bowhnterdon]

This idea has come up every time the contract has been re-negotiated for

like the last 30 years. The answer is no.... it will never happen.

Correct,never happen. Never. Why would they? Buyouts are used to reduce headcount. Under most Supplements ,UPS would have to replace the hourly anyway.Only under severe WC cases have I seen a buyout

 

[Old Man Jingles]

They already bought me out. offered 3500 a month for the rest of my life and i took it.

You let them off easy ... I get $7000 a month.