Will UPS use the 70 hour rule this peak season

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by BigBrown87, Nov 29, 2018.


When do they move the dot hours to 70

  1. Not this year, we our ready for peak 2018

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  2. We lied, so were going to need you to come in Saturday

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  1. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

  2. BrownRecycler

    BrownRecycler Member

    Yes. I lost my English in the first language

    Too bad. Read it any way.
  3. Mooseknuckle

    Mooseknuckle Active Member

    They were told not to by management.
  4. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    We're still 60 here, and have never gone to 70 in years past.
  5. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    I'm interested to know (while nobody seems to be able to tell me with any certainty) what the "process" is for UPS to enact the "70 hour rule" when previously only abiding by the "60 hour rule" in an area or region.

    Do they have to apply with the DOT, make a declaration, or just do it, etc...???
  6. sandwich

    sandwich The resident gearhead

    Why does anyone listen to management. Why wouldn't you call your shop steward or B.A. about that. Idiots.
  7. sandwich

    sandwich The resident gearhead

    If they do that here. My production is going to drop worse than it already is. Last year I was struggling to stay awake on my drive home almost every night.
  8. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    No process.

    Per the DOT, UPS can follow either, and it is just up to UPS which rule to assign drivers to.

    FMCSA guidance questions and answers to the HOS rules.

    Question 1: May a motor carrier switch from a 60-hour/7-day limit to a 70-hour/8-day limit or vice versa?


    Yes. The only restriction regarding the use of the 70-hour/8-day rule is that the motor carrier must have Commercial Motor Vehicle CMVs operating every day of the week. The 70-hour/8-day rule is a permissive provision in that a motor carrier with vehicles operating every day of the week is not required to use the 70-hour/8-day rules for calculating its drivers’ hours of service. The motor carrier may, however, assign some or all of its drivers to operate under the 70-hour/8-day rule if it so chooses. The assignment of individual drivers to the 60-hour/7-day or the 70-hour/8-day time rule is left to the discretion of the motor carrier.

    Question 3: May a carrier which provides occasional, but not regular service on every day of the week, have the option of the 60 hours in 7 days or 70 hours in 8 days with respect to all drivers, during the period in which it operates one or more vehicles on each day of the week?



    Question 6: If a motor carrier operates under the 70-hour/8-day rule, does any aspect of the 60-hour rule apply to its operations? If a motor carrier operates under the60-hour/7-day rule, does any part of the 70-hour rule apply to its operations?


    If a motor carrier operates 7 days per week and chooses to require all of its drivers to comply with the 70-hour/8-day rule, the 60-hour/7-day rule would not be applicable to these drivers. If this carrier chooses to assign some or all of its drivers to the 60-hour/7-day rule, the 70-hour rule would not be applicable to these drivers. Conversely, if a motor carrier does not operate 7 days per week, it must operate under the 60-hour/7-day rule and the 70-hour rule would not apply to its operations.
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  9. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Can you post the link where you copy and pasted this information (please)???
  10. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Regulations Section
  11. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Regulations Section
  12. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

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  13. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    And here, we are still on the 60/7 rule. Have not changed to the 70/8, and was told that we will not.
  14. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Same here, but was still curious.
  15. lolbr

    lolbr Active Member

    Are feeders running 7 days a week? Package drivers aren't. I guess technically, if they start a couple hours before midnight Sunday night, or run a couple hours past midnight on Satuday night, someone is working on Sunday. But that's not "really" running 7 days a week.
  16. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Feeders run on Sunday.

    Plus UPS has sleeper teams. I'm sure they run on Sunday's too.
  17. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Yes, feeder runs 7 days a week. Feeder in my area is currently working under the 70 hour rule with a mandatory 6th punch.
  18. Sweeper

    Sweeper I need a bigger broom

    We’ve got jobs in feeders on Saturday and Sunday in New England year round.
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  19. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    So that right there means UPS can make anyone at anytime 70/8
  20. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!