Yelled at for blocking traffic

Mugarolla

Light 'em up!
Incorrect. That’s privately recording.

This is in a public space, everything is legal to video/audio record.


Why do you think stores, malls, businesses, etc with surveillance equipment do not record audio?

Federal Wiretap Laws.

Cliffbotes version of the article.

But here’s the most important part:

recording video of a conversation in public might be legal, but recording audio along with that video is not if you’re in a two-party state.

For example, recording a video of your heated conversation with a surly sales associate is illegal in all two-party states if they don’t give you permission to record them. Even in one-party states, recording video like that is dubious at best.
 
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john chesney

Well-Known Member
Yikes, if that was me I would of taken those air pods out before leaving the truck and told the camera guy “Sorry, I’m not allowed to make statements for UPS. Feel free to call their 1800.”
Once upon a time the ups driver was one of the highest respected,loved figures of the community. We worked hard to maintain that image and took pride in it. Now we look like a bunch of ass holes driving brown trucks
 

CoffeeStainedUniform

Well-Known Member
Once upon a time the ups driver was one of the highest respected,loved figures of the community. We worked hard to maintain that image and took pride in it. Now we look like a bunch of ass holes driving brown trucks
Once upon a time; comparative wages were higher, preload had a living wage, and people didn't get mattresses and dog food.
 

jimbopper61

New Member
Always move out of the way of an ambulance, no question. But also you can see by the marks on the road as to where other vehicles were able to navigate around brown. Could the ambulance driver not had done the same instead of just waiting? Could he not had backed up to go around if he was not getting any response from the truck direction when the driver was out of the truck? How many times have we come upon a street and it was blocked so we had to back up and go around the other way? But if clearly in UPS truck at time, MOVE!
 

rod

Retired 22 years
Once upon a time; comparative wages were higher, preload had a living wage, and people didn't get mattresses and dog food.

I could be wrong but preloaders were only paid the same as drivers from the time UPS invented pre-load until the next contract. Those hired during that time always kept the higher pay but if you were hired after that the pay was squat. That would have been a great contract for the part timers to ban together and keep the high pay but as usual very few of them voted.
 

Mugarolla

Light 'em up!
There is no expectation of privacy in public.

Here are just a few. You're welcome to check for yourself, or how about posting a video, with audio, without the other persons consent in a two-party State and let me know how that works out for you.

Hidden cameras spy cameras and nanny cams with built-in microphones for audio recording FAQ

The main point to understand is that ANY video camera (regardless of the device) when used in conjunction with ANY type of microphone (built-in or external) will be subject to all Federal and State video recording and audio recording laws. In other words all video/audio consent recording laws will still apply. Do not attempt to record audio or video using any device without the proper consent of all parties based on the state you are in. Talk to a local attorney about your intended use before recording any audio or video if you are unsure of the laws in your area.



https://lifehacker.com/what-you-need-to-know-when-recording-your-enemies-1795226719

Audio and Video Aren’t the Same Thing, but Can Be Intertwined

Video recording law is different from audio recording law—and a topic for another time—but it’s important to know what those differences are. Generally speaking, you have the right to record video in all public spaces without need of consent. A public space is defined as anywhere any member of the public can legally access, so public transit facilities, parks, streets, etc. are all fair game. Recording video on private property, though, is up to the discretion of the property owner, private security, or police, but secret video recordings are illegal on all private property in some states, like California.

But here’s the most important part: recording video of a conversation in public might be legal, but recording audio along with that video is not if you’re in a two-party state. For example, recording a video of your heated conversation with a surly sales associate is illegal in all two-party states if they don’t give you permission to record them. Even in one-party states, recording video like that is dubious at best.



Recording in Public Places and Your First Amendment Rights - Videomaker

While it is not illegal to photograph or record images in public places in almost every state, some states have eavesdropping laws that criminalize recording oral conversations without permission, which has led to arrests due to the fact that videographers don’t usually make silent movies. When arrested, photographers are also typically charged with disorderly conduct, obstruction of governmental administration or trespass.
 
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